2y ago

Leave Texas and other Draconian states and risk getting pulled over for driving pregnant? Nope, just have the pills mailed from California.

www.cbsnews.com

New California law aims to protect doctors who mail abortion pills to other states

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Wednesday that aims to stop other states from prosecuting doctors and pharmacists who mail abortion pills to patients in places where the procedure is banned. California already has a law protecting doctors who provide abortions from out-of-state judgments.

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The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is "engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion."
Who tf does the catholic church think they are talking about "ideological colonization"? That's the whole point of religion. Catholics are masters of "ideological colonization". They're just bitter it's not working for them anymore.
- Also, more to the point, citizens who don’t want abortions can just… not ask for abortion pills. Like, that’s not that hard.
  
  Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I'm pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I'm repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.
  So:
  I am pro-choice.
  I get what you're saying, but unfortunately if you're looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it's the same as someone saying to you "citizens who don't want to murder can just... not murder people. Like, that's not that hard. We don't need laws against murdering people though"
  Required reading: “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”
  
  Some people must have crippling abortion addictions. The kind of people that are like "I love being pregnant" and then soon after "Stairs my beloved ❤️" repeated indefinitely.
- Heya, it sounds like they're trying to influence matters of state. TAX THEM.
- Catholics are also masters of protecting pedophiles.
- The funny thing is the Bible says life begins at the first breath like 4 times, and has an abortion potion/ritual guide.
  
  Could you share which verses of the Bible. I'm not doubting, this is just so funny I want to see it for myself
- “Ideological colonization” makes it sound like the law encourages California doctors to leave the state, commit what’s considered a crime in another state, but then be shielded from prosecution. According to the article, the law does not apply in such cases.
  California just wants to protect their doctors from the crusades of far right wackos. Good for them. Red states are doing everything they can to alienate people like doctors and teachers. It’s a race to the bottom.
- Also the citizens very much do want abortion, that’s why they’re having one
- It's simply projection, which is all conservatives know how to do.
- That’s what masters do: dominate the game to such an extent that people don’t even know they’re doing it. And cry out if anyone else even tries to play, without irony.
- Well you see the catholic church doesn't have much experience with unwanted pregnancies, since they mostly stick to diddling kids.
- Did they forget about the Jesuits lol
The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is "engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion."
"Denying the legitimate interest of other states to protect unborn children and public health is a dangerous precedent," the association wrote in a letter to lawmakers earlier this year.
The absolute fucking gall of christians, holy shit...
- They're acting like California is going to personally mail these to every texans door.
  
  We can only hope...
  
  May improve Texas
- ...ideological colonization...
  Wow, that's rich, coming from an institution that historically shipped zealots around the world to proselytize.
  
  And not to mention killing soulless savages (indigenous peoples) under the blessing of god.
- since when did these religious nutjobs want to "protect" anyone? Guns, and car accidents are major killers of kids, when I see some action there from these liars I'll believe they're just honest dumb people who think zygotes are people. Until then these crocodile christians can shove it.
- I can never fully decide whether I think they're proud of their hypocrisy and cruelty, or whether they're just too stupid to see it. They're such shitty people that both are distinct possibilities.
  And anyway, wtf is "ideological colonization"? The language these far right crazies keep coming up with keeps getting more and more like that fake legalese that sovereign citizens use to try to sound smart.
- Lol, if the citizens really didn't want it, then they wouldn't be ordering the pills now would they?
"The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is "engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion.""
Oh fuck right off. What's that? You don't like it when someone has an ideology forced on them?
And the pills will be mailed in a box that looks like the packaging for a new gun to make sure Texas gets it through without checking it or anything.
- These are just tiny white bullets
  
  Oh lol! Great comment!
- I would think that if they are sent by USPS then the states would not be able to legally intercept them. USPS is not responsible for enforcing state laws and there are some pretty serious laws protecting the privacy and integrity of your parcels and mail.
The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is "engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion."
Are ... are they trying to say CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to people who didn't ask for them? What does this statement mean? Maybe what they meant was something like: "We do not believe women have a basic right to control their body, whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
- No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing 'ideological colonization' by mailing to anyone in TX who does want them, since the majority do not.
  Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though... 🗿
  
  But .. they don't mail the pills randomly. A person in the state where it is outlawed is requesting something from a state where it is not.
  I don't see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.
- The majority oppose abortion? I'd love to see whatever stats or information you have that shows that.
risk getting pulled over for driving pregnant
Is that not allowed?
- Not without your husband's permission it's not. This is Texas we're talking about here.
  
  I'm sorry, what? A pregnant woman can't leave the state without husband's permission? Also, what happens if she's a single mum, or she's not married? Or a widow or husband is deployed... I mean... what?
- Some counties and cities in Texas are making driving through them for an abortion illegal.
I can't take an article where catholics are accusing others of ideological colonization seriously. I hate cringy atheists as much as the next guy but these morons genuinely need to fuck off already. Thank god I don't live in NA anymore, seems it's all just going downhill.
- edgelord atheists make a lot more sense when you consider them as an immune system overreaction to something terrible that refuses to go away.
  like how many norwegian edgelord atheists have you seen? weirdly they all seem to come from turboreligious places..
  
  The "religious" version of the edgy atheist is the satanic temple, who since the overturning of Roe has made abortion one of their sacred sacraments. They're good at muddying up the laws regarding religious freedoms that some states only want to offer to christians.
  https://thesatanictemple.com/
- Because it's the California Catholics I'm going to assume it's part of the larger trend of Latine folks saying that queer culture and feminism and other social causes in Latine communities is a result of "gringo colonialism"
  Some of these psychos go from zero to death threats with so much as a mention of that blasted X, which Latine queer communities came up with first!
  There's some poor latine enbie with a flair for math stuffs living in a permanent state of traumatized horror because of these machismo lunatics.
Yet another reason to stop expecting Democrats to protect you.
https://aidaccess.org/
- I don’t expect them to protect shit, I just hope they will fuck up things more slowly than the Republicans (and generally they do).

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