Sign for “whites-only” moms and tots group in Metro Vancouver sparks outrage
Sign for “whites-only” moms and tots group in Metro Vancouver sparks outrage
A sign advertising a “whites-only” moms and tots group is causing outrage online after photos of the posters were shared on social media.
A sign hung in Port Coquitlam advertising a “whites-only” moms and tots group is causing outrage online after photos of a poster were shared on social media.
It's wild to me that after the last six years or so, people are still happy to conclude this must be a troll or fake. Like damn, what is it going to take to convince you that racists are fucking brazen?
I’d say it’s also that a lot of folks are very invested in making other people second guess if something like this is actually real or if it’s just Black folks with ulterior motives. It makes it easier for more people to dismiss overt racism when it happens.
Maybe some investigation Journalism that actually checks if this is real, or not? Because yes, a lot of these posts have turned out to be bullshit from trolls
Like damn, what is it going to take to convince you that racists are fucking brazen?
Call me crazy but I don't typically associate racist trash mom and tot groups with the sort of people who make very clean and legible flyers with fully formed clear english and even properly used apostrophes, as well as a QR code (centered too!), a telegram group, and a proton email
The deeper you look into all the context surrounding the flyer, the faker and faker it looks.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a trolling of sorts.
Gotta say the investigative journalism on this one left a lot to be desired, like investigating and journalism. Anyone can write "hey I saw this thing on Instagram, might be real might not thanks for the click."
no time to investigate, gotta post rage bait ASAP
Op has a track record of posting garbage bait articles
Yeah I was going to say this is like big Poe's law. Could be real. Could be satire. Could be just made up for trolling.
The telegram has only 2 posts by the creator, conveniently only an hour or two before the picture was posted onto Twitter.
The telegram picture is also conveniently a picture of the exact same piece of paper featured in the twitter post...
Whats the odds that someone made the Telegram account with a picture of the paper on what looks to be a table, then took it outside, hung it up, and in under an hour or two it already was posted up onto twitter and being reported by, coincidently?
Moreover, why was the telegram created first, and yet also has zero members? Who does that and when does that happen? Typically such groups would already have a circle of individuals participating and the telegram would be created for them to chat easier, so the telegram would have users added asap.
But instead the telegram was made, zero members ever added, the photo uploaded asap of the already printed off paper, then only an hour or two later this twitter account happened to see it so fast and snap a pic, and didnt even bother to edit out the URLs, and uploaded it to twitter?
Would have been more believable if they had edited out the URLs, but nope, leaving them up like that is something someone trying to make it look legit would do.
It took me literally like, 30 seconds to just look that telegram up and see what was going on, and yeah lo and behold it looks fake as fuck.
The deluge of people believing this shit at face value and not even checking out how legit it looks is concerning. Like come on, it wasn't that hard to check.
Not everyone operates in typical ways. Isn’t it also possible that someone started the telegram in hopes like-minded folks would join?
If a fire alarm is pulled, assume there’s a fire.
It's the internet.. we should question everything. That's not to say this is false or that racists don't exist. Just that being skeptical should be the default position.
If a fire alarm is pulled, assume there’s a fire.
Sorry but you aren't going to convince me to just trust random strangers on the internet with a vested financial interest in gaining clicks/likes/shares/subs about random stuff they say, especially when its something so brazen.
The whole thing clearly looks fake as fuck. People need a healthy dose of skepticism when it comes to shit like instagram/twitter/tiktok and whatnot, which was the medium this was shared over.
Nothing about that picture remotely looks like what it claims to be, the fuck kind of "moms and tots" group posts and shares that way, come on, use your head for a second and imagine the scenario playing out.
Even going with the absolute maximum benefit of the doubt, whatever way you try and frame it you still end up painting an incredibly bizarre nonsensical scenario that just. doesnt. make. sense.
The only scenarios that make sense based on the way it was shared, the way it was setup, and the way it has been followed up on are:
A: It was manufactured upset by the person who posted it. They created it all as a hoax to gain further subscriptions to their platform, which they have a vested financial interest in expanding.
B: It was created by a troll, who thought it would be funny to see it spread virally
Ask yourself some simple questions here:
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How come the paper for the telegram post was the exact same one that got caught and put up on twitter? What are the odds?
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How come there has only been one of these posted and shared anywhere, and how come only once? Surely there must have been other pictures of these flyers by other citizens?
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The only conclusion you can make is... there was only one flyer taped up? And that one got taken down as soon as the picture was taken? Who goes to all that length to make the telegram, make the group, get a QR code, setup a (supposedly real) email, make a flyer all typed up... and then just only posts up one solitary flyer?
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And what are the odds that that one solitary flyer gets found moments afterwards by, coincidentally, the owner of "BlackVancouver", a twitter/instagram that is pretty much entirely all about spreading around posts about trying to find racial injustices, and has recently been trying to get more subs/likes?
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And despite all that, the telegram still today has no members/new posts.
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And the email is a proton one? The fuck? What mom and tot group have you ever met that seriously uses fucking proton mail as their provider?
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And jesus look at the chosen email and the chosen telegram name. It's twenty eight characters long. No normal person, especially one looking to share the group via flyer, ever makes something like that
I mean come on, this isn't sherlock holmes here, the thing is riddled with so many goddamn holes, a sieve would hold water better.
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Eh, walk around with a Nazi flag and see how long it takes before you're on social media...
The person would have created the telegram group so others who wanted to take part would have somewhere to communicate after seeing the advert?
Honestly this kind of attitude is only diminishing a problem that's very real, i.e. the rise of racism and bigotry.
The telegram has only 2 posts by the creator, conveniently only an hour or two before the picture was posted onto Twitter.
Thanks for posting this. You are showing what people SHOULD be doing instead of immediately going into some race-baited tirade. The problem is that these days, people seem to WANT to get baited into some race argument. Lots of blue-haired, black nail-polish zoomers with nothing better to do started fuming before before they should jump into the comments and read a post like yours which shows that this is probably some total bullshit. Either a joke or something posted to purposefully cause controversy.
Lots of blue-haired, black nail-polish zoomers
Ya I am one of those types of folks still, I just took the 30 seconds to look into what I was reading.
When you make statements like the above, you just shove yourself over to the other end of the problem. You do realize that blanket referring to a large group of people as all behaving the same way is bigotry right?
Like, you realize you can critique a post without resorting to bigoted ad hominem attacks on a massive group of people?
Please don't associate with me, lol. You aren't behaving much better. Literally everything you wrote here was unnecessary and you're post would have been much better without it included:
Lots of blue-haired, black nail-polish zoomers with nothing better to do started fuming before before they should jump into the comments and read a post like yours which shows that this is probably some total bullshit.
Literally all of that was totally unneeded, and makes you sound extremely bigoted.
Jesus this sounds like something straight out of a nazi poster in Germany 1933
Legal antisemitism didn't really happen in Nazi Germany until about 1935 with the first Nuremburg Laws. In 1933, the Nazis were more concerned about consolidating and holding power than they were with the Jews. The antisemitism really wasn't a popular policy of the early Nazis, either, and it took a few years of brainwashing through state media to get to that point. If this poster was in 1933 Germany, it would probably read "No Communists," if anything.
(Sorry for ruining the fun)
Damn that's interesting. Thanks a lot for the insights
NPCs reading about history: >:[
Nobody should be surprised that there's fascists in Canada. They're everywhere.
It could be a prank - it might not. I'm not going to assume anything either way because I don't see enough hard evidence.
CBC wrote on it as well.
'Proud parents of European children' is a big call-sign there.
What's that? A sign that can be placed by literally anyone? And it's obscenely racist? Must be real. Why wouldn't somebody proudly advertise a thing people would be angry about in a public place.
If you don't think that there's white supremists in Canada, or that they aren't this brazen, you're dead wrong.
So there's lots of brazen white supremacists in Canada? You must have a ton of similarly-brazen examples then?\
This is noteworthy enough that I've seen it more than once already, on Reddit and here, in a world news community. That suggests that this is pretty frickin rare, which kinda undermines your argument.
It really kind of doesn't matter. Joke or serious, it could have an oppressive effect on minorities wanting to use the park. It sows doubt and mistrust whether it's one person's idea of a joke or serious idea.
If a fire alarm is pulled, assume there’s a fire.
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Are you seriously suggesting that people aren't credible because they're black?
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This is totally shit (assuming it is real and either not a joke or not some planted sign to stir controversy), but if the sign said any other race, there would be a whole lot less outrage. Or no outrage at all.
I think the sign is racist as hell from the undertones it gives off. However there are plenty of black only, indian only, jewish only etc baby groups. No one seems to bat an eye at them. I would just like an answer to why segregation imposed by certain groups is acceptable and not others.
Very good question. Why is it OK for thee but not for me? It shouldn't be OK for anyone, quite honestly. Get everyone mixing together as young as possible, but only when one group tries to separate themselves does it become an issue. Hmmm.
The reason why is because historically in Canada people who weren't white were treated way worse by white people and even though things have improved today, the effects of that mistreatment still affects many people today.