8mo ago

Microsoft says Windows Mail app won’t fully disappear, but here is why you won’t want to use it

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8mo ago

Microsoft says Windows Mail app won’t fully disappear, but here is why you won’t want to use it

www.xda-developers.com /microsoft-says-windows-mail-app-wont-disappear/

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Because it's worse than new outlook, and that says something.
- I sometimes click on, "Try the New Outlook" button because I like pain.
  
  You perverted fuck
  
  I always think "this time I will make it work." I'm sure you can figure out the rest
- But it isn't, actually.
So they are keeping the Mail app, but changing it so you can't send or receive email. That seems pretty pointless. Just remove it from Windows altogether and be done with it.
- I’m sure there is a hidden dependency from the file system or something…
  
  Calendar depends on it. Even in windows 11, mail and calendar accounts in settings don't function right if mail (& calendar) is removed
- I'm reasonably certain they are not aware of how to remove anything from windows.
  
  Explains why control panel and settings are both still a thing like a decade after they said they'd be removing the former.
Kind of funny. Windows mail is actually the only Microsoft app I actually kind of like. At least design wise. I like how friendly and kind of mobile UI-ish it looks.
- Same, it's clean, straightforward and fast unlike the shitty web wrapper that is the new Outlook. If they go ahead with this, I might actually just go ahead and start writing a clone.
don't forget that the new outlook app right out steals the login details to your email accounts, along with all emails you will send and receive even after uninstalling that malware:
https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-microsofts-new-data-collection-service
- Isn't this an extreme security issue for companies?
  
  No, because every company of the world is already a O365 customer.
  
  ¯(ツ)/¯
So they are replacing windows mail with Microsoft outlook, which was replaced by windows mail years ago (well not really 100% true, its fun to think of it that way)
Although, to be fair, maintaining two mail clients is pretty stupid.
If they can stop pushing all the separate half baked "new"/"beta/"work" versions of mail and teams, and just update them so everyone's on the same garbage apps, that would be great.
- I just love how outlook is supposedly their best effort in the email segment, yet I have literally had it show me that a new email has arrived, then hiding it, and the only way for it to become visible again is to restart the app. This happens at least once a week.
  
  Happens to me all the time too, I'll open it via the notification and it just won't show up.
  Or I'll delete an email about 5 time until its finally gone.
I switched to Thunderbird when they started to get insistent about switching to Outlook.
- Me too.
- I switched to eM Client... Happy to pay for an alternative email client platform
  
  Funny they killed the free tier almost the same day as Microsoft made the outlook announcement. I dumped both of them for Thunderbird. Not as pretty but does the job for the limited use case I have:
Narrator: No one ever asked for it or is using it already.
Yes please explain to me why I won't want to use Microsoft mail.
Jokes on you Microsoft, I recently ditched windows.
Annoying you can’t sign in to the new app with a business account unless you have a specific license. Windows mail has no such restriction.

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