Majority Leader Chuck Schumer loosens Senate dress code to allow senators to wear whatever they want starting Monday
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer loosens Senate dress code
I like that the thumbnail is John Fetterman. Like who else could this be almost explicitly aimed at.
Exactly. Now watch, some of the GOP that complained about Fetterman's clothing choice will take it to the extreme and wear a chicken costume or something.
Personally I'm holding out for aborted fetus costume. I can feel it in my bones.
Well there was a literal orange clown in the oval office for a few days so republicans were already dressing up
For sure someone is going to try to leverage this. What back-bencher will jump at it, and make a splash?
I look forward to all the cock jokes. I'm thinking something like:
"Which is the bigger cock: Hunter Biden's penis, or this chode in a chicken suit?"
I hope he goes wearing overalls with one shoulder unbuckled and nothing else.
The Vince Wilfork Hard Knocks look is classic.
Personally, I'm hoping for a full-on biker gang setup complete with jacket with a big patch on the back.
Poor guy got so depressed having to wear a suit they changed the dress code. I can empathize. My boss told me to put a dress shirt on if I'm on camera with customers and I hate it.
Dude looks like someone stuck an Astartes into a sweatshirt and jean shorts.
It would be funny if he voted no on it.
Zelensky
Ok so can we have universal healthcare now? Cause that should be the biggest issue every single day for them.
Until the filibuster is gone or there are 60 dem senators, a vote on universal healthcare will just be performative. You're not going to get any Republicans voting for that.
And then? Let it be performative. Make it the top issue every single day. Make sure nothing gets done until it gets done. Tie to budget, tie it to cabinet appointments, tie it feel good bills that do nothing. A single issue that shuts the government down until resolved. Eventually it will be. The DNC keeps playing nice and keeps failing.
Well then perhaps the Democrats ought to engage in progressive theatrics as fascist theatrics seem to be effective.
Time for femboy Congress
Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.
One rule for thee but not for me.
Seriously, wtf sense does that make?
Dress codes are designed to keep the "wrong people" out. Show up to a DC event and they'll know you don't belong by the cut of your suit.
Dress codes are designed to keep the “wrong people” out. Show up to a DC event and they’ll know you don’t belong by the cut of your suit.
Or at least, that's the excuse they'll use since they can't forbid entry due to the factors they want to use anymore.
No that's literally the purpose of all dress codes. If you don't fit in you get kicked out, and the most restrictive clubs require clothing that is extremely expensive.
Well yeah, those are for superheroes only. If you don't have a suit you're not a superhero.
Not just to literally recognize people who don't belong or to act as a financial barrier. Some of these dress codes I think are there to give a feeling of who belongs. They want people to feel stuff like, "wow, these people are so dressed up and I am never dressed up, so they must be above me".
Traditionally, politics has been a thing for the upper class and intertia on such things doesn't make it easy for them to change. Dress codes in politics is just another way to make the idea of being a politician feel like something only for the upper class. Low and middle class people aren't supposed to feel like they can be politicians. Politicians aren't supposed to be too relatable. Even when trying to be relatable, they still often act like they are better than you.
should've passed it for every job, everywhere, using the same logic
Indeed. What is considered "business attire" is exceedingly stupid and impractical.
I only ever had one job with a business casual dress code. Never again.
Seriously. I joke that I specifically became a sysadmin because a T-shirt (and occasional polo), jeans, and sneakers or boots is already formal for me.
... it's only partially actually a joke.
When I started my current job (over 20 years ago), I dressed in dress pants, a sport jacket, tie, dress shoes, and dress shirt. Over time, I ditched the sport jacket.
Then COVID hit and I began working from home. Now my work dress is a nice shirt (polo or solid print) and jeans or shorts (depending on the weather). No shoes needed.
Now, I wouldn't want to go back to the more formal dress code. Sure, it means that the dozens of cool and geeky ties that I accumulated over the years won't be used. Still, I'd rather be comfortable and still look professional than be dressy and uncomfortable.
I'd love to see the moral scolds on the right pipe up about how scandalous this all is, right after Lauren "handy" Qbert was caught on video....
Fetterman has already addressed this on Twitter/X.
That is amazing. Of course straight to the pearl clutching from Fox.
Know what would be funny? All the Dems show up in tan suits.
That would run about as well as the nancy pelosi kente cloth. The way you own republicans is by damaging their ability to gatekeep, not by just doing the thing they do but different.
I have no idea what you just said. Not one thing made any sense.
Good thing Matt Gatez isn't in the Senate.
I’m ok with this- who the fuck cares if you have a tie.
I was all shit and tie when I started my job, and especially after Covid, things have relaxed to just about anything. Sure, I still put on a nice work polo for a client meeting or something, but fuck the suit and tie. If anything, fancy dress code made me way less productive because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is ridiculous.
As for our lawmakers, one less thing to distract them from actually reading bills and having productive discussion is a win.
I’m a software engineer and cloud architect
Knew it 🤣🤣
I think "as a software engineer" is the "as a mother" of the fediverse
:)
I have a friend who used to work for some big time government IT contractor, he was a tech guy, software engineer or something along those lines. One time they wanted him to go to some meeting, and not that he normally dresses like a slob or anything, but for the meeting he put on like a polo and khakis figuring he should look somewhat professional. They told him to go put a hoodie on because they thought whoever they were meeting with wouldn't take him seriously as a programmer if he looked too presentable.
That sounds like a Dilbert comic. Why is life imitating satire?
I'm a programmer, and I like dressing up: I don't like ties, but I like wearing slacks and a button up shirt - so long as it's a nice fit, it doesn't restrict your movement, and there's a lot of things to subtly stim with - you can roll your sleeves up or rebutton the cuff, you can make your steps clack or silent depending on how you walk, etc. Plus people just treat you differently off the bat, it's a confidence boost
After a few years of constantly being told by everyone "you don't have to dress up, people come here in jeans and a t-shirt" I finally gave in and took the hint
People just expect good programmers to look aggressively casual these days
I was all shit and tie
I think I may have spotted your problem.
Edit
PS: I wear shorts or jeans and a tee every day. But oddly enough I also find suits really comfortable, as long as the shirt collar isn't too tight. And I even kind of like dressing up. Once in a while. Maybe it's because the laundry routine for a suit is much more of a PITA than tees.
I work from home and only have a couple meetings where cameras aren’t necessary. Usually explaining how reports are calculated and such.
I wear pj’s 90% of the time unless I need to leave my house.
You're telling me you don't just wear the PJs out? Join me my friend
because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is ridiculous.
I had a role for a grand total of six weeks like that. It ended with one of those you can't fire me because I quit kinda deals.
I hope this goes to the House too so I can finally see Boebert in her wal mart pajama pants
This is part of a slow trend towards powerful people dressing casually to differentiate themselves from the less powerful people who work for them. Historically, trends like this have been set by the elite and are then emulated by people trying to convince others that they are elite. This is the beginning of the end of formal wear in the United States. Soon a suit will mean "i work at a hotel".
Hence this part, perhaps?
Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.
Rules for thee, not for me.
I hate dressing up for work. Reminds me of getting dressed for church as a kid. Hard pass.
Honestly doubt anyone will vote differently because of attire. If anything, the conservative commentators will say that the Dems are being lazy and undignified if they aren't wearing suits. We'll probably see most senators continuing to dress formally anyways because it's a symbol of power.
Well, the formal wear will just shift- to over priced hoodies and stuff
I don't think so. I think this time is different. At some point the leadership was no longer the trendsetters. I am not going to buy a certain shirt because I saw Biden or Bezos wearing it. I might if someone I think is actually cool did. Maybe we just aren't some weird pyramid society anymore.
Fetterman wearing a hoodie is BAD AS FUCK.
He's here for your lunch and he brought you a snack for later in the day too.
They should wear togas and sashes. Maybe have some fist fights and assasinations once in a while.
You heard the old man in charge, boys. Dicks out on Monday.
Senate meatspin!
Eh, I'm fine with it being loosened up, but is it really "whatever they want"? If it is then I'd think annoying attention-grabbing messaging would become an issue. (Or, not an issue, in the grand scheme of things, but another in a long list of distractions)
attention-grabbing messaging
This is what the GOP would call a senator wearing a rainbow shirt, for instance. Should that be a reason to restrict self-expression?
Sea of maga hats though...
Fuck yeah. Hoodie and jeans. He's the most "average man" there is.
Jeans? What the hell is this,, Ohio? That man is wearing a hoodie and shorts, thankyouverymuch. The senator from PA prefers traditional dress.
Oh fuck yeah, shorts 100%, but I figured he wanted to class up the joint a little and wear long pants.
This will be helpful in so many ways, humility and work ethic will be encouraged by not inflating ego with suits. If a suit is your style, great and fine, have at! If you are wearing it to feel important and you are working with others who are dressed differently, you are reminded that the job is at hand and not ego.
It looks like it’s geared towards men and their suits but does anyone know if there were changes for women? I know Canadian parliament women had to protest to not get in trouble for just showing their shoulders, not sure if there’s similar rules in American congress.
Fetterperson
Fetterfee, Fetterfi, Fetterfo, Fetterfum
The Four Fettermen of the Apocalypse
I'll have you know a shorts and hoodie is appropriate wear pretty much anywhere in PA for any event, so Fetterman should be allowed to rock his Pennsylvania tuxedo
We need to add Rule Zero to the constitution: All rules will be submissive to the rules that preceded them, excepting amendments abolishing them.
Bam, free speech is now in effect under all contexts. Also, you can carry a gun on the senate floor and in the oval office. That would probably get a gun amendment passed real fast
Now Lady Gaga can run for Senate.
I hope at least one person still believes you dress for the job you want and they show up as spiderman.
Literally saw this as I'm preparing to go get printed for a background check for my first gov job. I've been debating how dressed-down I wanna be since this isn't an actual "work" thing. This just persuaded me to ditch the polo shirt and wear a tshirt. I'll have plenty of other days when I "need" to wear a colored shirt.
So, just a caution. The folks in the area of the department you're working for may be chill and following the norms of leadership. But bureaucrats are cautious and traditional to a fault. Many still see formal wear from subordinates as a sign of respect for the hierarchy and office, and changes like those from Schumer as a temporary stunt that may or may not stick around. Further, the folks who are printing you are likely law and order types and are even more likely to make judgements based on appearance. Unless you know they are chill, caution may be best. In general, government work is highly context dependent, with lots of unwritten rules and judgements based on perception and relationships. Caution is best if there aren't written rules to follow.
A note to programmers: don't "dress up" for any important business or government meeting. I got yelled at once because I was supposed to "look like a programmer" in a sales meeting but I dressed nice
Unless you know they are chill, caution may be best.
A good piece of advice for every day in your life, when dealing with others that may have power over you.
looks at my DHS badge with it's literal just woke up face and memphis devil lady t-shirt
Huh, that explains a lot of things now.
And so the Fashionista Party began its dominance of the vote
Balenciagaaaaa!
More rules for thee but not for me.
Senates dripping... Now that's one off my bucket list 🤣
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., has quietly made changes to the Senate’s informal dress code to allow senators to wear whatever they want on the floor, one person with direct knowledge told NBC News.
A notice went out to the Senate sergeant at arms and relevant staff late Friday, and the change will go into effect starting Monday, the source added.
The offices of Schumer and Fetterman did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
The Senate has operated with an informal dress code enforced by the sergeant at arms, which requires men and women to dress in business attire.
But because the standard is not formal or a written policy, senators at times have been seen on the Senate floor wearing gym clothes, golf attire, denim vests, shoes without socks, colorful wigs, among other unconventional attire.
Although senators will benefit from the new change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staff is still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code.
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It's a slow top-down, follow the chain of command, follow policy, follow the chain of custody, vote, protest, violently seize the means of production,
until we have universal healthcare.
Yeah except almost every other western nation that got universal Healthcare without half of that because their entire government isn't controlled by rich oligarchs who profit directly from private healthcare.
Means of production? Shit is produced in china? You mean attack china?
We have universal healthcare without any of that. Strikes and organisation is the key.
so what you're saying is that its gotta wait till it trickles down to us then
(JOKE please for the love of god dont kill me trickledown econ is for the stupid)
I was with you until this point.
:( same initial thought here....