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For the First Time Ever There Will be a Vote in Congress on Blocking Weapons to Israel

scheerpost.com /2024/10/03/for-the-first-time-ever-there-will-be-a-vote-in-congress-on-blocking-weapons-to-israel/

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Too bad the vote won't happen until after the election, if it ever happens at all.
I like this because then we can see who votes against it and know definitively who does and does not support this ongoing genocide
- I hope you're prepared for a lot of "abstain" votes.
  
  I'd say fence-sitting this vote is even more an indictment than just a "No" vote personally; it doesn't take a MENSA candidate to tell whether or not funding a genocidal morass of settlers is morally correct
  
  Still tells me everything I need to know. Silence is violence
  
  Abstaining is pro genocide imo
  
  That is a perfectly clear message for me actually.
  
  It's about opposing genocide or not. "Do nothing knowing that will cause the genocide to continue" is close enough to "continue the genocide" for me.
- Someone will add something to the bill that will give any who need it an excuse to vote against.
  
  and any who take it can be safely counted as monsters in support of a genocide, fuck what they say after the fact
- Assuming they don’t do a voice vote (PDF).
  
  Another example of more subtle forms of exclusion afforded by anonymity can be found in the practice of voice vote in the US Congress. While the roll call voting record, which identifies the voting behavior of each Congress member individually, has established itself as the dominant practice in modern congressional procedures, the default version still practiced today is the voice vote. Here yeas and nays are each expressed verbally and collectively so that the individual vote of the respective Congress member remains unknown to the public. The chair then gauges the majority and decides the vote. This procedure, which is the original practice of the US Congress, undermines transparency and parliamentary accountability. Obscuring voting behavior effectively shuts the public out and metaphorically speaking closes the doors of parliament to public scrutiny. Lynch and Madonna (2103) find that elections incentivize Congress members to request a recorded roll call vote. Thus, while the competition for seats enhances transparency, voice voting is still a common practice when members of Congress want to conceal their voting behavior on controversial issues
I wonder how many of those who complain about "Jewish space lasers" will suddenly want to vote against this?
- Those jewish space lazers aren’t being manufactured by Lockheed
- Wut
  
  How many Republicans that have complained about Jewish space lasers will block this bill? Pretty simple question actually.
Every time I see Bernie's face its on smt good. Bless him fr
- One of the greatest tragedies in American History was this man losing the democratic nomination. He could have done so much, and instead we fucking got Joe Biden...
  
  :( agreed
- Can I interest you in a 8 1/2 hour Bernie Sanders filibuster with Lofi in the background?
If 80 senators decide the vote should be anonymous then it could be, right? Normally i don't think that'd be possible but for something AIPAC hold so dear i could see it
- If 80 senators decide the vote should be anonymous then it could be, right? Normally i don’t think that’d be possible but for something AIPAC hold so dear i could see it
  
  A voice vote would provide that anonymity and may be the path the senate goes down since then the official votes aren't counted, but idk if that is paperwork that happens later.

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