Vegan diet just isn’t that fun 🤷‍♂️

This is not a joke: I had a coworker say almost this exact thing to me a month ago, and just last week he discovered that he has gout because he eats steak every day.

we used to have someone go through the carnism subreddit and post all the greatest hits to the vegan comm.
bloodmouths are not ok
edit: here's one of the posts
- Ooh imma get a snack and enjoy this one

I did start caring more about animals after I went vegan. I was never frying ants for fun, but I also never got sad about petting zoos, for example.

So hey, maybe it’s more common that people adopt a moral system that makes meat seem less like food no matter how they start out.

Yes, of course that would be the case.
We come pre-built with a TON of instinct that initially drives our behaviour but we can override those with some information and effort by our big brains.
- Perhaps I should have said it differently. After decades of being a vegetarian, I went plant-based for the environment, then fairly quickly went vegan, because I started caring about animals a lot more.
  I don’t know if that’s just as obvious, but I was definitely surprised.

What's non-vegan about pasta?

Semolina flour and water? Is that not the ultimate vegan food?

May I introduce you to the concept of cheese?
- I mean, that's added to the pasta after, the pasta itself is just flour and water, cooked in salt water.
  Whatever you do to it AFTER THAT, well, that's on you. ;) I personally don't do cheese. Not vegan or lactose intolerant, I just don't like cheese.
  There are plenty of pasta sauces that don't involve meat, dairy or eggs.
- Hhmmm... Spoiled cow tiddy juice. How can anyone forget
Flour, water and egg yolks.
- Most dried pasta is vegan, though. Unless specifically buying egg pasta.
I think OP was referring to what goes ON said pasta
- A lot of pasta sauces have butter in them, personally my favorite pasta sauce is a homemade tomato sauce by Alton Brown (https://altonbrown.com/recipes/pantry-friendly-tomato-sauce/ ), it's vegan even though I'm not.
  I usually do a double batch once a month (more or less, depends on how quick we use it) and it fills up 3 32 oz mason jars with 4-8 oz extra. It's amazing on pasta, pizza, eggs, burgers, meatballs, pretty much anything that's good with tomato. Cheaper and tastier than buying jarred tomato sauce by far, plus you can make it as chunky or smooth as you want by how much you blend it. Only costs a few bucks to make too.
You forgot cheese?
I think my blood is 50% noodles by now, I frickin love pasta.
If you cut out all of the pastas that have eggs, cheese, butter, milk, meat, shellfish, or fish (anchovies) then you’re cutting out the vast majority of restaurant pastas and the majority of pasta recipes you’ll find in recipe books unless they’re specifically vegan (restaurants or books).
- I'm talking about the pasta itself, not the finished dishes. What you do to the pasta after it's cooked is where the non-vegan part comes in.
  The noodles themselves? Wheat flour and water.
many sauces require some sort of meat, cheese or other animal products (eggs, etc)
- That's not the fault of the pasta though. ;)

Skill issue

Depends how you handle it! I live off a diet of party poppers and fireworks, and I think it's a blast.

There are literally a thousand ways you can make vegan pasta lmao

Skill issue

GIVE ME THE PIZZA, PRECIOUS

Cheese breath found

Opinion -> discarded

@bridge nothing as fun as abusing animals ammirite

Marinara pizzas are awesome. And I'm not even vegan

Vegetarian diet could be animal cruelty free.

Not according to vegans, simply collecting eggs or milk is "abuse" and "rape" I'm told.
- Personally, I don't see how forcibly impregnating cows and then taking their newborns away as soon as they are born in order to ensure we get all the milk could be considered cruel. Everyone knows that all non-human animals are simply automata with no ability to experience emotions. Cows, like dogs or cats, have no ability to feel so we can do anything we want to them.
  Also, veal couldn't exist without our wonderful dairy industry. Think of all those veal steaks you'd get rid of without the newborn males to slaughter from the dairy industry.
- Apparently tons of deer are killed to prevent them from reaching fruit crops... no diet is 100% animal cruelty free