very normal redditor pushes back against tyranny
very normal redditor pushes back against tyranny
"I hope this is not true forever but I can’t argue with you. My father is the artist, he turned 88 on Monday, so he has witnessed the rise and fall of most of the dictatorships of the 20th century. A neo-conservative of the 1960s, Andre believes that, while the CCP may not fall in his lifetime, that eventually it will crumble to the will of the people."
"Neoconservative of the 60s"
That's some flowery language for "vehemently opposed to the civil rights movement"
from the comments:
I was alive to watch the Tiananmen Square massacre live on TV
uh huh? really?
I love dorks that talk about a foreign government crumbling to the will of the people when they (presumably) live in burger country where the majority of people hate their elected officials and the democratic system, are pessimistic about their own and their country's futures, and don't believe that their government is working for them.
The fact I can call Trump a Cheeto is no different than the underground partisans who fought Hitler. I’m already a veteran. The Chinese people need to do their part and hang Xi Jingping
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Got news for you libs, China already crumbled to the will of the people in 1927
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I’m still unable to wrap my head around why for something the west calls a “massacre,” they chose the specific event where no one fucking died. HE NEVER DIED. The column of tanks also weren’t hostile to the guy because they tried to fucking go around him, and they all stopped when they realized he kept blocking their way. They even had a casual conversation with each other before parting ways.
Fuck man this shit is annoying. That’s emblematic of democracy more than anything. In the US the soldier would’ve been applauded for running over the uppity whiny protestor for blocking the intersection. You’d think they’d choose more violence and death to show the “massacre” that went on in Tiananmen but it’s always just pictures of students standing around or marching and the tank man. But weirdly enough they never show the pictures of soldiers and the same students have camaraderie with each other because many of them didn’t want to overthrow anything.
You’d think they’d choose more violence and death to show the “massacre” that went on in Tiananmen but it’s always just pictures of students standing around or marching and the tank man.
There are some pretty gory pictures of the battle that happened in the surrounding streets. But there's burnt out police vehicles too, so it kinda contradicts the image of a million peaceful protesters getting mowed down by machine guns and then run over.
Lynched and burned PLA guys as well
There are some pretty gory pictures of the battle that happened in the surrounding streets.
Besides the PLA corpses, are there really gory pictures? I've seen a pretty large amount of documentation and, in the rare instances of something seeming to be a gory protestor death, there was no usable citation presented with it that would allow me to actually place the picture at that event (unlike, to pick an easy example, the wide-angle shots of the streets that invariably show a bunch of abandoned bikes rather than corpses). Maybe a military equipment person could tell, but I certainly couldn't.
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I can't avoid thinking of that video of British royal guard soldiers who trampled a small child that did the rounds on the internet a couple of years ago. Back then lots of people thought that the soldiers were right in doing so as the kid was standing where they were supposed to march, stopping or taking a step to the side would be against their orders so it was really the child's and their parents' fault.
But when a Chinese guy who was part of a violent riot against the government walked out in front of a column of tanks and wasn't hurt at all then it is the crime of the century.
I recall at the time people mashing together footage of the Buckingham guard plowing through a child with footage of some PLA soldiers doing a similar patrol coming across a child and walking around them.
It's not that no one died anywhere, but Tank Man didn't die and neither did anyone in the square itself. Some PLA troops, insurgent guerillas, and bystanders did die and, critically, some of the student leaders who were being used by western intelligence got on TV immediately after the chaos of the event to tell ridiculous stories like the tank-mulching thing. They tried to create an actual massacre and, when they failed to, they just said that one happened anyway.
The “specific event” I was referring to is the rank man, not the whole protest. But that’s what I mean. Whether it was students dying or soldiers dying, you rarely see pictures of that. It’s always the same stuff of the tanks or students standing around
88 you say?
Asinine comment, of course the state will ultimately wither away and the CPC will become obsolete. This dickhead doesn't want it to crumble to the will of the people, he wants it to crumble to the will of capital
your father is a fucking moron and has been for decades, embarassing to publically admit this.
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I want to "hand it to" the libs about one thing: The still image of tank man is a very good image that very compellingly tells a story about courage and integrity in the fight against faceless brutal oppression.
That story is of course utter bullshit but the image is very iconic.
Years of indocrination to believe in the "democratic vanguard of light that is the west" and appealing to our human instinct of compassion with images like this is a powerful combination. Even NATOpedia correctly states deep down in the article that no one died in the square itself and what happened in general was hardly a massacre, unless you're willing to put the same label on so many things that happen it the west. But the huge majority of people won't do the research when they've already been convinced sentimentally.
tiny man square mass occur 
Crash Bandicoot proportions on the tank man.
Also this asshole can't even draw the tanks the same way, it's like the turret is slowly inflating for each tank in the line.
The beauty of the Tank Guy is we don't know why he did that. He did eventually get up and talk to the tank driver. He wasn't killed or anything and definitely was not run over by the tank. He very well could have gotten up there and said, "Make sure you do not go easy on these insurrectionists. When our turn comes we shall not apologize for the terror."
in my headcanon, he was complaining to the tank driver about the disturbance and how he's just trying to go home with his shopping and when will order be restored please sir?
he was mad because he just wanted brunch
The will of the people to.. get crushed by tanks instead of being allowed to live without negative consequences? It's actually a pretty picture, but I wonder what redditor's father actually thought the protestors wanted.
missing link? (posts can't have both an image and a separate link)