Anyone else missing posts in smaller Lemmy communities because they are overshadowed by the popular ones?
Anyone else missing posts in smaller Lemmy communities because they are overshadowed by the popular ones?
I tend to miss posts in smaller communities, no matter what sorting options I use when I display the "Subscribed" feed on the frontpage.
If I sort by "New", unsurprisingly most new posts are on the popular communities. Same if I select "Hot", "Active", or "Top Hour" etc. Overall it makes sense, small communities don't have new content as often, and threads there are not that "active" as there not many users.
I think the algorithm should somehow ensure a more diverse feed. There also no "multi-reddits" atm, so you can't just create a feed of those smaller communities.
Of course, I could create another account and only subscribe to small communities, but that's inconvenient. Simply checking them manually is what I do atm, but it's also not that convenient. A temporal solution might be using the RSS feeds, but overall it seems something should be done about it on Lemmy's end.
So, anyone else experiencing that or am I missing something? Because if I am not the only one then perhaps this issue should be brought to the attention of the devs (if it wasn't already).
You should go see the github for lemmy-ui. There is feature request to add the weight of the community into account so we don't only see the most popular post from the biggest communities. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues
That'd be great. Currently 90% of my feed is /c/memes and while I do find them entertaining, I also miss a ton of posts from smaller communities related to my hobbies that I would engage with more.
Yeah, I had to leave memes because it was my whole feed. I feel like one of lemmy's biggest potential selling points would be a scriptable feed. There are some small communities I want to see every post in, and other huge ones that I only want to see maybe the top 5 from.
I've unfollowed /c/memes for exactly this reason. Not that I don't like them, but I wanna see "literally anything else"
I blocked that community because it dominated every feed.
Yeah it would be really great to be able to make a temporary filter, like I'd love to be able to have my homepage without any content from Memes without having to unsubscribe
I finally created my lemmy account specifically so that I could browse lemmy.ml again without seeing memes all over the home page!
That’s bloody brilliant. I hope it’s implemented soon.
The problem is I mostly use lemmy(or reddit before) on mobile, so sadly all this neat stuff doesn't help me
The sorting systems are server-side, not client.
If web adds it, it is likely many apps will follow suit. It's all open source after all.
yeah, having everything taken over by memes is annoying.
You can block them. It's so much nicer with them gone.
There’s currently a PR for a different sort that would kinda of address this issue.
Wow. I'm kinda impressed that that's already in the works.
I'm rather pleased with how many developers have gotten involved with the project. Looks like the work might not be finished yet on this feature, but it's definitely on its way!
After the stability issues with Lemmy were addressed (and they have been, for the most part...) the next thing that needed a revamp was content aggregation. It's too stale. It's no wonder they're pilling on to address it.
IIRC it took quite a while for Reddit to find an algorithm that worked, and it constantly needs tweaking. It will here, as well.
A smart sort would be great. Maybe even some custom settings for it, like weights for community, upvotes, replies, etc.
Yeah it's the reason, back on Reddit, that I'm able to see posts from smaller subreddits show up near the top of my feed because it's popular relative to the number of subscribers of that subreddit.
I'd even go further and claim that any post on the smallest sub should be more important than almost any other post on a larger one.
You did subscribe to it so you want to know.
"Hot" just needs to weight the upvotes by the relative size (or average post upvotes) of that community, so you can see whatever is "relatively Hot" within each.
Yeah, I've actually just unsubscribed from !memes@lemmy.ml because otherwise it was the only community to appear in my subscribed feed. One thing reddit did well and I miss on lemmy was giving visiblility to posts on smaller subscribed communities when sorting by hot
Yeah 90% is just the memes community because its so big, memes are a big part why i joined reddit and now lemmy, but it's just to much, i want variety at my feed!
Especially with the retro memes thing going on, I found it funny like the first 10 post, but it's getting on my nerves already. I wonder what people that came here just now have to think
I look forward to when "multireddits" are implemented in Lemmy, I used that feature all the time on Reddit.
Although it'd still be an issue that the smaller communities are simply lacking in activity in general, I guess.
I do like talking to myself IRL too, but there's a limit to even that lol
I didn't use that on Reddit but it seems like it would be more useful here since basically the same community can pop up multiple times on different instances.
I have kinda solved this accidentally. I have accounts on multiple instances. One them has no filters and the other one has all meme communities blocked and nsfw turned off. Now if I load all@lemmy.world I see everything, but all@feddit.nl is a nicely trimmed feed.
This works well if you use Liftoff on android at least.
I had to block one of the meme's communities for now because there were times where one person would post 4 different memes within seconds of each other, they would all get upvoted, and now a 4th of the page are memes
Not that I dislike memes, but it was happening for most of the day. It did convince me to specialize my subscribed list a bit more though.
With you on this. I don’t like current Lemmy/kbin sorting methods. Most of my subscribed feed is filled with like 5 top communities, but I’m actually interested in those so I don’t want to block them.
It would be great if posts from smaller communities were injected into the feed even if they don’t really meet the “hot” requirements.
I just unsubscribe from communities which appear in All anyway, it's a pretty good solution IMO.
We should open an issue
You might need to remove some of those popular communities to extract what you are actually looking for. Because the posts from the popular communities stay on the top of your list. That worked for me.
Yes, but I figure that's just the way it will go until the community grows. Give it another couple months of growth and reddit exodus then I imagine we'll see far more QOL updates to Lemmy and Jerboa.
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Had to block some of the meme communities there for this very reason. My feed no matter what was meme after meme. Blocking them has made the all feed much better.
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I’m using Voyager and there’s a Home feed that shows only posts from my subscribed communities. It’s not as good as multi-reddits, but it’s better than checking each community individually for new posts.
The web pages for Lemmy and kbin have the ability to filter by subscribed communities, as well. I think what most of us are thinking of is a way to view the "All" feed that gives more weight to the smaller communities, which would help us discover new communities to subscribe to.
I had to unfollow ”politics” because it took over my entire homepage. It’s a bummer because the I like seeing the occasional political post. I’m guessing they drive more engagement and that’s why they’re so ”loud”.
I've been on here a lot, and I use the different sorts. The think with smaller communities is how many times do you want to show the post that was made last week as new? Until someone comments in them or makes another post it's not going to bring it up in new or hot.
Maybe a random sort option could help?
But it really comes down to engagement. Engage with the smaller communities and they'll show up more.
I used reddit in a way where I would check out my front page, and then go to my favorite (smaller) subs to specifically look for things that wouldn't make it to the front page. Unfortunately, I've not followed through with that after leaving reddit, because I'm on kbin and it's pretty annoying to get to your followed magazines (as they're called), and I see indications about making some of them "favorite" but I don't think that functionality actually exists yet.
I'm sure it will get there eventually.