[META: serious and constructive discussion thread (radlibs will be yeeted tho)] You can both criticize the lackeys of capital AND vote for the ones slowing down the degeneration into fascism a bit
[META: serious and constructive discussion thread (radlibs will be yeeted tho)] You can both criticize the lackeys of capital AND vote for the ones slowing down the degeneration into fascism a bit
(img translation: "Wind-up toys with a common key")
However, expending all your energy and agitprop potential on getting ppl to vote for the good cop instead of the bad cop, still legitimizes the dictatorship of capital (as well as it's sham democracies). It makes it seem like voting could solve systemic problems, instead of it just playing the game of late-stage capitalism. Anywayy.... that's my take (so probably incorrect)
This thing is a one-time thing tho, there is actually a sibling community for this kind of stuff: !actualsocialism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Try to mitigate harm while still advocating for better.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
Perfect is the enemy of good enough
The Democrats aren't doing anything to slow down a descent into fascism. In fact it could and should be argued they're accelerating it by not offering any reasonable alternatives to the type of populist fascism the American right offers. To be described as slowing fascism they would have to be actually doing something to slow it rather than letting it happen but tutting quietly about it. The only thing they're doing is spitting in the face of their constituents in favor of the asks of their capitalist donors.
The Idiot openly declared he'd be a dictator, just for a little bit. Just the tip.
He spent late 2019 through early 2021 committing high crimes to subvert the election.
Shut up about which team is making it worse faster.
Ofc they are accomplices in the machinations you describe. But I'd argue that their relative complacency/inaction/enablement - in comparison to the active/aggressive bs the reps are doing - is still preferable for socialists and just generally the 90%.
tl;dr: voting only by itself/as the only form of action only legitimizes the spiel of capital, but it does buy crucial time needed for socialist organizing.
It isn't though, because it becomes harder for socialists to organize socialist-adjacent libs when said libs are convinced that "Well if I just vote THIS ONE MORE TIME things will get better." The lie the Democrats are selling is that they're actually a real opposition to the right, but it's a lie. They're using that lie specifically to draw people away from the promise of real change through meaningful action, and they reason they're doing that is to protect the interests of capital. Ask anyone who organizes how much easier the actual organizing part is when a Republican is in power; it's way easier because folks can't hide behind that "well maybe if we just try harder we can get the Democrats to care about us." Nobody feels that way when Democrats have no power so they actually engage with organizers. Logistically it might be harder, legally it might be harder, it might be more dangerous...but the actual human to human conversations are much easier when libs aren't under the influence of that "Just one more vote" lie, and that human connection is the thing that builds the kind of power necessary for the changes we need.
We gotta stop pretending like anything is easier or better under Democrats. They're good at making us feel like they are ignoring us or giving us space, but they aren't. They're actively hampering real action and real organizing.
One of the keys to strategic success is picking your battles. When you have the chance to choose the enemy you'll face, don't let fate decide for you. At the end of the day, you are going to fight, so pick the fight with the enemy you think you have a better chance of defeating. Take this whichever way you want.
Lefty memes is just a bunch of angry libs.
Better to post these somewhere safe from the lemmy.world flood of bots
I don't think all of those ppl are bots tbh. I get your frustration tho, should probably ramp up the moderation/enforcement of the com rules a bit. Should probably also invite some ppl to become moderators
Incorrect, there are at least 3 fascist trolls here.