The comments by US House representative Tim Walberg of Michigan drew condemnation from progressive political quarters, including from some who expressed disbelief that a former Christian pastor would advocate for what they called the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.
End-of-world evangelicals want the world to end. Global pollution, climate change, human rights, et al. don't matter because rapture or some crazy shit like that.
Imagine being a genocidal monster and genuinely thinking God is going to come and save you for being good. If he came, he would take one look at you, charge up 2 million volts of electricity from the sky at your location and then smite the ever-loving shit out of you into fine ash.
God sometimes when I read stuff like this as a post I reflexively down vote because I hate it so much until I remember it's just a post calling attention to someone being a piece of shit and not agreeing with them. I up voted again to fix it lol
It just occurred to me that there are probably people who look at those bombings - after the war was effectively over BTW - not as evil (my view), nor as a regrettable but necessary way to avert American deaths, but as an actual heroic act.
Jesus, how do I live in a world where there are people like that running around having normal lives...?
If you were in the other thread about these bombings yesterday, you'd see that viewpoint is basically what the US teaches in school. It's disturbing to see that so many people actually believe this was for the good of humanity.
That continues to be my parents' view (I suspect the same is true for many of our parents). It'll be a few generations before the fiction around Hiroshima gets wiped away. Hell, the '21 Tulsa massacre is only now getting some actual cultural awareness, and that's only because it was depicted in the first scene of The Watchmen.
The argument doesn't just include American deaths, but Japanese deaths as well. You may not agree, but the us just finished in Europe far past the point where the war was effectively over, and there was the belief that the Japanese would always take it further than the germans. Part of it was the japanese war strategy. They wanted the enemy to think they would have to cut through them to the last man woman and child, to get them to give up. There was a belief that maybe a shock would do something, but there was also doubt to that. 7 more bombs were going to be ready to soften up japanese defenses during downfall. They thought they would have to do much more damage.
Edit: I messed up my words in a way that subtlety changed the meaning of a sentence.
Japan only surrendered after the second bomb and even that almost didn't happen due to a plot to prevent the surrender from occurring by people in the Japanese military that were intent on continuing to fight the war.
The bombs were atrocities. That said, I don't think a lot of people today comprehend just how fucked up and terrible Japan's military culture actually was around that time.
Doesn't the congressman know that you aren't supposed to say the plan outloud? You are just supposed to provide all the bombs and arms required no strings attached. These new republicans just don't understand decorum.
It's not like anyone in the Israeli government was hiding the fact that their plan was genocide either. It's only the state department and mainstream media that are pretending to be shocked that there's 'collateral damage'.
He voted nay to "Providing for the expulsion of Representative George Santos from the United States House of Representatives."
Another old fart that graduated bible college
It was before, under the League of nations. Jewish terrorists under Irgun and Stern group (which later formed IDF) bombed the international administration to get land and get them out. When England gave up, Israel took the land
how is this any different from Genocide Joe's or any congressperson's position? Israel has already dropped the equivalent of several nukes on Gaza, and they still have the US's unconditional backing.
I begin to wonder if this is how these fuckers planned to slide out of sight all along. I know they don't seem very bright, and they aren't, but they are crafty. Trump isn't a 'smart' man - he's crafty. Smart and crafty are two completely different things. There's been a rash of this type headline - republicans spouting batshit crazy lies and spinning them into worse lies.
Was there a bachelor's to be had in "Lie Your Ass Off - 101 → 666"? (i don't remember this being a course objective during my time in school)
So anyway, they spout some shit like this even they don't believe in order to be kicked off the team and into ticket sales... cash baby! Hard to follow with "donation" rules.
...say something stupidly preposterous - get kicked out - disappear into the fundraiser scam... more money in their bank.
Oh yeah we'd nevvvveer have a bunch of the "I used to be Democrat voter until event _____, now I'm all in Republican" people show up with their new attempted catchline. Noooo, would nevvvver happen. Not online.