Trully a journal which speaks for British millionaires
Trully a journal which speaks for British millionaires
Trully a journal which speaks for British millionaires
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"If God didn't want me to fuck my cousin, then why did he give her such a fat ass?"
But we're facing a cousin shortage!!?!!??
Well start making more cousins. With your cousins.
Cousin marrier is an insult against the rich here in Chile
It's not right to mock the Anglo-Saxons for their traditional practices.
When The Economist starts talking about the merits of dynastic marriage like this, it makes me rethink the validity of the whole neo feudalism thesis coming true.
This is the shit I come to Hexbear for. Idk anywhere else where someone would put those two things together. I certainly wouldn't have thought about it.
I mean it jokingly of course. I've come to doubt the idea of capitalism transitioning to neo feudalism after listening to some arguments that took apart the thesis.
Something tells me one of the cases where it's "not fine" for hereditary diseases is after ten centuries of unclefucking
This article was definitely written by someone’s creepy uncle who’s angry that he’s not allowed to be alone with children at family gatherings.
I'm going to go against the grain and say whatever. What you think of cousin marriage is mostly just cultural. (I don't know why comments are insinuating cousin marriage is solely or mostly a white or European thing)? The genetic dangers of incest are typically overblown (just like genetics in general are given far more importance than they deserve). The immorality and general badness of incest is mostly social (do I need really need to elaborate?) Cousin marriage is so normal and widespread throughout time and space that I can't get too much of a bug bear about other people doing it, especially if the science says it's mostly harmless.
Honestly, I really think these western "lefitsts" need to study cultural anthropolgy, cultural sciences, etc. because they claim to be "redpilled" when it comes to politics but when they encounter an otherwise harmless cultural aspect they don't like, they immediately go ham with the chauvanism. It's so knee-jerk, and they use after-the-fact rationales to justify their initial "vibe."
All I can really say to this is there’s a lot of good lookin people out there. If your taste is so niche that you’d prefer to fuck your cousin than any of the other millions of people that’s weird. I don’t care what the science says nor do I care if you’re an anthropologist or whatever.
Preparing the British public for a new monarch in case Charles isn't long for the world.
did rrudy giuliani write this?
Yep, another aryan classic.
Us puny undesirables will never understand NASCAR-Americans, our natural superiors.
Accusing southern people of being genetically inferior because of inbreeding is classist and also tacky.
I mean, yeah that's correct. Shit doesn't really matter there's important things in this world and that ain't one of them
Thanks, I needed to hear that. 🙏
It’s not inbreeding, it’s the breeding that’s in
I’m happy for Rudy Giuliani.
I mean sure, cousin marriage is much less taboo but why tf would The Economist post this?
It is though the strong taboo against cousin marriage is relavtively recent and kind of weird and supported by incorrect beliefs that you'll definitely have flipper babies instead of any kind of analysis of power disparities or family dynamics.
From a genetics and general health perspective having babies with a first cousin creates a trivial risk unless you're both carrying genes for some serious condition. Condemning cousin marriage bc genetics is not valid and is probably left over gene hygeine nonesense from the bad old days of eugenics.
If you have a social critique of cousin marriage i am 100% on board to hear it, but if you bring up genetics I will point at you and laugh.
Sincerely; i'm an anthropologist and marrying your cousin is weird in our cultural moment but has been entirely normal in many places in the past and doesn't cause your babies to be born with tentacles and fangs.
counter-point: Nah bro
thought-terminating cliché
:nerd:
The cultural taboo against first-cousin marriage is probably due to the fact that if you have too many people marrying first-cousins in a fixed community over generations it will eventually lead to inbreeding problems, which was a bigger issue when everyone lived in small agricultural communities. People who get weird about second or third cousin partnering are frankly silly, if you live in any sort of rural community finding a partner who isn't somehow distantly related to you is near impossible and inbreeding really not a problem with anyone beyond first cousins.
But first cousins, honestly it's one of those things that's mostly harmless on the micro but harmful on the macro, hence why it's been discouraged via social pressure for millennia.
It has not been discouraged. It's very common around the world today. it only started to become taboo in European societies in the mid 19th century. (pardon the anthropology word) exogamous, ie outside your immediate group, marriage has been common throughout history and people in the medieval and ancient world travelled much more commonly than people think. Even a marriage group of a few hundred people has so much genetic diversity that unless a specific genetic illnes becomes fixed in the group, like Tays-Sachs or something, it's unlikely for cousin marriage to cause problems, doubly so if there's any outsiders marrying in to the group which has almost always been the case.
This is a taboo that developed recently in European culture and isn't well founded in science. There is a small increased risk that an genetic illness already present in the partners genes will be expressed in their children. The idea that it's an ancient taboo is not historical.
There is totally a genetic problem caused by multiple generations marrying inside the family though, which is part of where the taboo comes from, isolated families or aristocrats marrying their first cousins for literally centuries.
So I did some digging I and found this: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.0060320, which says:
So it doesn't seem like the rise in those laws and the associated taboo really had anything to do with genetic disorders, but rather other factors.
Frank is an anthropologist and he literally said that's not the case, so I'm not sure why you're saying this? It is more of a "vibe" thing?
You and your cousin are not gonna have flipper babies, but after doing this for several generations, your descendants will all have PCOS and astigmatism, they will need glasses for poor eye sight, and probably several of them will be physically and mentally disabled. There is a lot of research to back this up, and if you don't believe in research, you can compare the side of your family that have been inbreeding with the side that have not and you can see for yourself.
Edit:
I'm gonna add that if you are considering marrying your first cousin, you undoubtedly already have family members that have been marrying eachother for several generations and you probably also personally know several people with some or all of the issues highlighted above, which is all the more reason for your family, friends and wider society to bully you out of doing it again yourself.
Also relevant Dead South song.
It's especially weird when people get like that about second and third cousins. Like ffs, genetically those may as well be complete strangers. If you've had a lot of sex partners and still live near your family you've probably banged one of those without having any idea about it lmao
I literally have a degree in Anthropology and I can't even remember what a second cousin is half the time, it's so irrelevant. Like you've got the same great grandparents? Cool, so does probably a third of the population within a hundred miles no one cares.
Ok but if everyone is having kids w their cousins, doesn't that compound?
Yes if you repeat cousin-couplings consistently, eg as a wealth protection strategy because you’re a European “noble”, then yeah you end up with that fucked up shit that was the Spanish monarchy and Prince Charles.
There was a Spanish king who was in fact more inbred, in a genetic / statistical sense, than had he been the product of a sibling-pairing.
Slightly inbred cousins having children with even less genetic diversity who marry their own cousins etc and the genetic pool gets about as deep the lyrics of the spice girls - when repeated as a norm for generations.
It’s funny how people get disgusted by breaking of arbitrary social taboos. What’s disgusting about it? They act like it’s making them physically sick just to think about which I just don’t understand.
That's what makes it a taboo. It's something everyone around them believes, and they believe, and everyone who doesn't believe it is a weird outside Other. People who challenge taboos within the culture are often ostracized, the taboo itself often has a bunch of myths justifying it, the actual nature, causes, and consequences of the taboo are rarely questioned let alone interrogated.
Westoid brainworms which they haven't yet shed, even though they claim to be "marxist" and "materialist"
i think this is something that cannot be placed within the auspices of consanguinity, the relationships people have with their cousins is wildly, wildly divergent even in the same culture and class. i'd rather have the rule be more like 'don't fuck someone that grew up in the same house as you' or similar
There's some evidence out there that there's a built in "don't fuck someone that grew up in the same house as you" mechanism in humans, that doesn't have anything to do with consanguinity or shared genetics.
I don't believe you.
I respect your determination to bend reality to suit your whim.
It's a bit weird to fuck a cousin tho innit. Although if i had a hot cousin I'd have to re-evaluate but I dont so
There is no escape from culture.
Wincest stay winning!
A vibes based disgust that doesn't level accusations of moral or ethical wrong doing is fine.
Percent of marriages that are to cousins or second cousins:
It's amazing how many "marxists" immediately turn into reddit science bros when they encounter the slightest notion that goes against their "sense of disgust" (which btw they have zero introspection about). It's amazing, cuz an actually existing socialist state like China largely takes this "cultural relativism" approach when dealing with other nations (even with minority ethnic groups within China, so long as they don't threaten the state by being used by western states as puppets). I mean that approach has more or less been the approach taken by civilizations that lasted centuries (i.e. the Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Abassid Caliphate, Ottoman Empire, Tang China and other dynasties, various Mongol Empires, etc.).
Also you're an expert in this, but their only response is "YEAH BUT SCIENCE SAYS ITS BAD!!
" even though you literally stated that this is your expertise.Pretty much number 923432432432 in the evidence pile that hexbear is just a bunch of whiny western leftists that are actually guided by their own personal idealistic sense of morals and project that into a "material" analysis.... for fucks sake smh... At this point they might as well just say CW (Islamophobia): ::: spoiler spoiler "Those fucking m^zzies and their love of cousin f*cking, those sand n-words are basically savages. I only "critically support" but if I was in charge I would immediately gulag them!." :::