EU Budget - Which Countries are EU Contributors and Beneficiaries?
EU Budget - Which Countries are EU Contributors and Beneficiaries?
EU Budget - Which Countries are EU Contributors and Beneficiaries?
Not surprised about Hungary, but hoooly FUCK, what's going on in Poland?
It's a big country with large regions that are still comparatively poor and agricultural. The latter two factors are what the EU pays for and the first works as a multiplicator.
Per capita it looks a bit different. According bpd.de the main recipient per capita in 2022 was Estonia with 677 Euros per capita and year and the main contributor is indeed Germany with 237 Euros. Poland "only" gets 279 Euros per person and year.
Agriculture is a great point overlooked in this chart.
EU puts a lot of money into this, and Poland being a great exporter for this, they also receives alot from EU to be able to do this.
Why are we doing it then, if it's a net negative? It's not, because we can all get our bread (literally) this way. And Poland farmers can make a living making the country richer.
War in Ukraine. A whole fuckload of people that seek asylum in Poland for obvious reasons.
Would be nice to have the same data per capita.
country,netcontrib DE,25572 FR,12380 NL,6929 IT,3337 SE,2826 DK,1766 AT,1540 FI,1109 IE,703 MT,-14 CY,-172 SI,-386 EE,-729 LT,-860 SK,-1398 LV,-1544 BG,-1727 HR,-1746 ES,-1946 LU,-2020 CZ,-2853 BE,-2950 PT,-3132 RO,-4096 HU,-4206 GR,-4278 PL,-11910
if (!require("pacman")) install.packages("pacman") pacman::p_load( countrycode, dplyr, ggdark, ggplot2, r2country ) abs <- read.csv("statista-netcontrib.csv",header = TRUE) abs2 <- cbind(abs,name = countrycode(abs$country,"iso2c","country.name")) df <- inner_join(country_names, abs2) df2 <- inner_join(country_population, df) df2$percap <- df2$netcontrib/df2$population2023*1000000 df3 <- arrange(df2,percap) ggplot(df3, aes(x = percap, y = reorder(name, percap))) + geom_bar(stat = "identity") + dark_theme_gray() + ylab("Country") + xlab("Euros per capita") + scale_x_continuous(breaks = scales::pretty_breaks(n = 20)) + geom_text(aes(label = percap)) ggsave("euros-percap.png")
Sorry about the broken escaping of the angle brackets (“<” is “lt;”) in the source; Lemmy is, regrettably, broken on that at the moment.
EDIT: Fixed Latvia country code error.
EDIT2: And Austria country code error.
Also, a Markdown table rendition:
if (!require("pacman")) install.packages("pacman") pacman::p_load( countrycode, dplyr, r2country, simplermarkdown ) abs <- read.csv("statista-netcontrib.csv",header = TRUE) abs2 <- cbind(abs,name = countrycode(abs$country,"iso2c","country.name")) df <- inner_join(country_names, abs2) df2 <- inner_join(country_population, df) df2$percap <- df2$netcontrib/df2$population2023*1000000 df3 <- arrange(df2,-percap) md_table(df3)
name | percap |
---|---|
Netherlands | 386.91124 |
Germany | 302.86855 |
Denmark | 297.09908 |
Sweden | 267.98643 |
Finland | 199.90810 |
France | 181.71677 |
Austria | 168.68113 |
Ireland | 136.52768 |
Italy | 56.76638 |
Malta | -26.94577 |
Spain | -40.25217 |
Slovenia | -182.27546 |
Cyprus | -187.34343 |
Romania | -214.99549 |
Belgium | -250.73894 |
Slovakia | -257.60767 |
Bulgaria | -267.84703 |
Portugal | -299.21568 |
Lithuania | -300.05251 |
Poland | -315.86485 |
Greece | -408.10926 |
Hungary | -438.25808 |
Croatia | -449.01298 |
Estonia | -533.72029 |
Latvia | -819.79399 |
Luxembourg | -3056.85909 |
statistia-netcontrib.csv
is using some weird country code that isn't ISO 3166-2, because it's got what I assume to be Latvia with the code LA
which is actually Laos, and that's reflected on your chart too – I was initially a bit puzzled as to why Laos was listed as being in the EU. At a quick glance it seems to be the only weird one though
When you look closely, the most undemocratic of them are also taking the most money...
Poland and hungary are constantly complaining about the EU and vetooing laws too
Interesting. The red bars almost exclusively belong to nations that had authoritarian single party government in the last half century.
When laid out like this you really see how deviating and long term the consequences of authoritarianism can be. Stable healthy democracy is a fucking superpower.
I'm Polish. So, if I understand this correctly, we are getting the most out of the EU, and yet still people here are complaining about it. And about Germany.
Luxembourg and Belgium?
Because the presence of the EU institutions this brings a lot of money in the economy
Would be interesting to see this info per capita.
Poland - Kentucky of EU
I went to Poland and I can 100% say its a fucking shithole. Shouldn't be in EU at all
I went to Poland last summer and I can only disagree.
I'm Polish. Can confirm, it's a shit hole. Still better than the US dough.
These kinds of charts are a bit dangerous, as it will be used by anti-EU folk in net contributing countries to say look at how much money we can save when we leave the EU. But this looks only at money being shipped back and forth. The EU has so much benefits in terms of trade and collaboration, it's a steal at any price.
All people have to do to refute the leavers is point to the UK
These people are usually reality deniers, so showing them anything is a no go.
And you know how they do it too.
First they do a whole FUD campaign, which get the people riled up and polarized. Up till the point that it doesn't matter what the truth is, it's tribalism, us against them etc. This phase is in full swing in Europe right now. Next they say well what if we do a non binding referendum? It shows the people we are actively taking an interest and we get to see what people think. If everyone votes remain, the issue is done and buried. Then leading up to the referendum they do a massive misinformation campaign, with TV ads, social media ads and posts, etc. Everything they can do to misinform the public, with Russia footing the bill for most of it. Most people aren't interested enough to dive into such a complex topic (and I don't blame them, it's very complicated), so they'll go off their gut and their gut is influenced by their experience in the world and on social media, so they will vote exit. After the referendum is done and the outcome is 50/50, they'll go yell: "THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN". And before you know it your whole country goes to shit and you are leaving the EU and basically committing economic suicide. By the time people realize what happened, it's much too late and all the shitbags responsible have gone away.
If you told me this before Brexit, I would have laughed and told you it's total BS. But then it happened in real life and I don't know how to deal with that.
It would be interesting to see this chart when the UK was included.
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Exactly. Germany makes way more than 25 billion Euro by being able to freely trade with neighbours.
Not to mention the fact that the €'s low value makes german goods much more competitive for international export.
Also by improving struggling countries it means you have more and stronger markets to sell to. When you empower your neighboring countries everyone is safer and stronger.
Not even that. It only looks at money being shipped back and forth via one specific channel.