‘I’m not wanted’: Florida universities hit by brain drain as academics flee
‘I’m not wanted’: Florida universities hit by brain drain as academics flee
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I've wondered how long we'll go before universities across the country start refusing to accept Florida high school graduates because their coursework does not meet basic acceptance criteria.
This is exactly what DeSantis and his ilk want. Conservatives are scared shitless of their kids going off to university and finding out that their parents and schools have been lying to them their whole life.
Solution: Ensure no out-of-state schools will accept your students so they're stuck in your shitty system forever.
The battles over AP curriculum were already partially this.
While this would make a big statement, the real victims would be innocent teenagers. Arguably we should be doing the opposite and trying to get as many of them out of that state as possible.
I don't understand why the education curriculum is not set at a federal level. It's not like 2+2 ever equals 14, no matter what state your from.
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While this would make a big statement, the real victims would be innocent teenagers.
This part was true. There's no action that we can take to save them from shit parents if they support this nonsense.
having taken classes like "Cell Biology and Jesus", "Why God Made Calculus", and "The Physics of Heaven" from their mom.
I see you've met my cousin! I wish I was kidding. :(
Florida is in for a rough time, in the next ten years will have a massive shortage of medical workers, teachers, and professionals. It will be the most uneducated state in the western hemisphere and likely a major center of criminal activity.
yeah, that's the plan
Then incentivize gun purchase and business is booming! (Pun intended)
Not to worry. The real estate market will prop up their econo… wait…. Oh. Um. At least they have good tourism because of Disn…. Huh. Ummmm… they can go swimming in the FL keys! The hot tub ocean temps will feel good till you want to cool off.
They’re also loosing agricultural and construction workers as DeSantis’s anti-immigration policies drives away illegal migrants who filled those positions in under-the-table jobs.
It will be the most uneducated state
Alabama and Mississippi will cage-fight Florida for that trophy.
In ten years I could see all three having very low education rates. Alabama will still have college graduates though, Florida might lose it's colleges.
Alabama is getting better somehow, lowest is WV now then MS, LA, AK, AL
Content warning: Fascism, sexual abuse.
The people who matter to the Florida Fascists all have investments in other states and countries. They aren't dependent on the local economy prospering; and they benefit from keeping state and local taxes low.
They can import doctors and other skilled laborers from overseas. Then by eliminating birthright citizenship and restricting naturalization, they can ensure that those skilled laborers' children will not become citizens. Uppity immigrants will be stuffed in a box and mailed to California.
By destroying public education, they ensure that those skilled laborers (and everyone else) must pay far-right private schools to educate their children. Only far-right schools and teachers will be permitted to operate; all others will be prosecuted as "groomers" and/or just lynched by outraged "mothers' groups".
Crime is very good for fascists; it keeps rich people scared of poor people, and thus willing to support politicized-militarized police violence, private militias, etc.
The goal is to replicate a fascist social structure, which is a parody of a traditional conservative social structure — with the aristocracy replaced by the loyal Party elite; church replaced with Party rallies; and multigenerational family replaced with atomized nuclear families whose man-of-the-house must be tested for Party loyalty. These all stand above the racial underclass — who do the doctoring, landscaping, and cocaine importing, and who don't get to do things like vote, question the police, or get their rape kits tested.
Being a trad dad isn't enough, men; if you tolerate political dissent among your children, they will be taken away from you and given to a Party-loyal abuser. Today it's your trans kid; tomorrow it's your teenager who's a Greta Thunberg fan. Permitting your daughter to attend an illegal protest is proof that you're a bad father — so you go to prison for child abuse, and she goes to the basement of some Gaetz-lookin' dude who attends Party rallies every Sunday with his terrified wife.
One of my kids is a sophomore in high school (we live in FL unfortunately), she wants to be a vet but we will probably be looking to other states to send her to college. Political climate down here is ridiculous right now.
They will 100% just brag about it.
And farm workers...
DeSantis honestly doing everyone in that state a favor by evacuating it before Climate Change wipes it off the map.
All the stupid ones will.
Most likely this drain of academics was an intended effect of the laws passed under DeSantis. The loss of academics hobbles institutes of higher learning while positions remain unfilled, resulting in a more ignorant populace. It also opens the possibility for far right extremists to infiltrate academia to corrupt academic thought and principles from within. The danger of ultra right wing, bigoted, nationalistic, authoritarianism continues to grow. How long before more right wing states follow suit?
It also ruins Florida's economy, though. Brain drain is like the last thing nearly all places want.
Conservatives have been gutting education for 40 years. Look at the educational outcomes in Republican run states. They like ignorant, meaning uneducated voters. Crippling higher education is definitely their goal.
Chasing left leaning people out is how they think they can fight demographic change and continue to survive at the polls.
A lot of people on this thread are saying the consequences of these policies is intentional.
I don’t give them that much credit. I don’t think they fully understand the consequences of these policies. And as things go to shit, they will just blame liberals.
And this is all really sad. There are some really nice parts of Florida, with some really nice people. Fucking sucks. Oh well.
It's even more sinister than that. An uneducated populace is good for the ruling class. They have more children on average and will believe the lies more willingly.
The Republican party has been trying to destroy the education system for decades. Not only do they not want the poors getting educated (more malleable labor), they want to privatize education (vouchers, divert more public money to private hands).
I'm convinced these types of arguments are from republicans trying to garner sympathy for the poor stupid people, how could they have known! See they're really not that bad guys, they just don't know any better!
Such bullshit and really the most pathetic kind of excuse.
With the oversight and tenure changes I think it was unintentional.
How long till they secede and shut boarders to libs? Good times good times.
The U.S. won't allow it.
They definitely wouldn't. But if push came to a shove, I wonder if they'd really be able to stop them? I'm not really clear on the finer legal points. But I know that for the American Civil War, the south all left the federal government (which presumably would have made it easier to pass any bills regarding the south) and they also basically forced armed conflict (both by attacking first and by seizing federal bases).
I'm not sure if a single state leaving would have the same effect, especially with how divided American politicians are. I don't fully understand if anything actually needs to be voted on (I do know that the American Civil War didn't formally declare war), but if anything had to be, it's hard to picture even a single GOPer doing anything (nor enough Democrats to pass anything -- never mind that in the Senate, the fillibuster means that if the GOP refuses to vote, that's the end of things).
So it's a pretty big worry, in my mind. With all the shit states like Florida have done, I wouldn't put it past them to try and secede. And no matter what, there's no way that would end well. Either things will get a lot worse for any Floridans that aren't cis, straight, and white, or there'll be a war that costs a lot of lives. It's a lose-lose for any decent person. Only fascists stand to gain and they have power in Florida.
They're not interested in secession, they want a constitutional convention to redefine the nation.
Yea holding everyone else hostage is a great way to live I guess. Crazy people.
This is starting to look like a prequel to The Handmaids Tale.
But it's not.
This isn't intentional. Florida's politicians want an educated, wealthy population and to fight a meaningless culture war with Disney and young people (to keep Boomers happy).
They are too dumb to see they can't have their cake and eat it too! This will be one expensive culture war.
Quality universities create quality employees and quality (tax paying) companies. By the end of the decade, and the region will stagnate and you'll see a "new" Republican going full panic mode to fix the damage (while somehow blaming it on Democrats).
In short: There is NO plan. They're just THAT shortsighted! (Everything you see can be, once again, explained by simple Boomer overindulgence)
Florida’s politicians want an educated [...] population
Usually, populists want an uneducated population to increase their chances of getting re-elect
I can see why black students would not want to go.
Can you see why anyone who calls themselves a student would want to go? I can't.
As intended.
Good luck finding right-wing professors, Ron. Alumni of the Florida Universities are going to be really mad when the schools can't fund football and basketball in the coming years. They already have a recruiting crisis due to Ron's actions.
It's a lot like that quote:
If conservatives become convinced that an education makes people less conservative, then they will not gaze inward to wonder why that might be, but instead reject education.
Absolutely no shortage of right-wing academics and ideologues who would be happy to take an $80k/year stipend to tell their RAs to play PraegerU videos for an auditorium-sized classroom while they clumsily flirt with freshman co-eds in the back office.
Once you abandon the idea of education as a real thing that colleges are actually supposed to do, its basically just a no-show job that functions as a kick-back to your cronies.
For real?
Dude once they are desperate it'll be the PTO warriors that become "professors".