Element has been working for me and my friends. At the moment, it just embeds Jitsi within the client to do group calls (which works fine. Jisti isn't bad by any means), but native group calls are being worked on and are currently in beta!

You can use Mumble instead of teamspeak.

If you just want to talk, mumble would be a very lightweight alternative.

i just got matrix up and running. its a federated ommunications specification. id invite you to mine but im still ironing things out. check out https://www.matrix.org

Mumble (is comoletely free software and has a better quality even than teamspeak)

There is a pretty similar looking and function called Revolt that could be useful for getting people that are used to Discord to switch. I think they also have a long goal of being able to send and receive messages and calls with Discord. Obviously they don't have that atm, but it is open-source and nice to at least know about in the event a quick exodus of Discord is needed.

Mumble is your best bet for an actual gaming voice chat setup.

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Did you try the TeamSpeak 5 beta client? It uses CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework) I think so it should be pretty platform agnostic. You can join TS3 servers with it just fine :)

Idk about them, but it's a centralized, locked-down service that absorbs and holds information and data hostage like tomorrow.

As someone who's trying to completely avoid Discord, it's quite frustrating how many communities and projects will put important information in their Discords, and nowhere else. You have to have an account to see it, and it also isn't searchable in a search engine. It is actually quite terrible for pretty much everyone.

Element/Matrix lets you peek into public chats and servers/spaces without an account, so it can definitely be done. They won't do it though, because they gotta make you feel dat FOMO lol.

Old electron version (meaning no screensharing on wayland), really buggy linux application, no encryption, poorly enforced rules and policies, micro transactions... Honestly, the linux version of discord is so terrible that I've been running it from a web browser for the last month or so, it's genuinely much better lol

Yesterday they enabled monitoring of all messages in their servers. It was obvious before, but now they are getting even more 1984. Communities should migrate as soon as possible.

So it does! I didn't know that. Admittedly, I don't actually use that much proprietary software on Linux-based systems, so my knowledge is limited. It'd be interesting if Lightworks or DaVinci Resolve were one day distributed with Flatpak, although Blackmagic Design believes Flatpak can't handle DaVinci Resolve's needs.

But hey, a community-built Flatpak for Resolve exists already.

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It is! And OBS is awesome. But it is not proprietary.

I will never not hate Javascript. I hate all web dev nonsense. What a huge mess that all is.

They're already using an Electron version that supports audio sharing iirc, they just default to their custom implementation which doesn't work on Linux

I'll check it out. I use discord-screenaudio myself.

I found discord-screenaudio to be a better solution.

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I came here to complain about Flatpak vs. .deb, and left with a new thing to try.

The Linux community in a nutshell.

You could also cross over the last part and it would still fit right in.

While I often prefer native packages, running occasional proprietary software is one of the best use cases for flatpaks. I'd never install something like discord with root privileges.

Yeah, it was for a game, but I just said f it, too confusing for me.

Yeah, my mistake, xbps-src... they might even have it in the repo repackaged, not sure, though it was in src only back when I installed it.

Yeah, I know that. They got permission for Vivaldi some time ago (like a year ago I think), so that's great, I just love Vivaldi ☺️.

I was also working on some old niche wares, like Nero 10 for Linux and some other packages long out of date, but still work. They wouldn't include them, so I might just put the templates on github or codeber.