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Bob Vylan Says 'We Are Being Targeted for Speaking Up' After Glastonbury Set Backlash

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“We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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There is no backlash. It's manufactured outrage by Zionists and their puppets in media and politics.
- That's probably true of most things people think/say about the IDF at this point. Even my massively zionist "most moral military" aunt is calling it a genocide and is starting to oppose them
  
  I wish my parents paid as much attention as your aunt. The other day they gave me the very good news that all the articles I send them about the genocide are made up! The BBC had to rescind their articles because the sources aren’t trustworthy, they told me. So no genocide at all!
  😐
- I’m certainly in favor of seeing the IDF in prison. Bring on more chants.
  
  No, the change is right. They need to die.
- The only thing nazis were right about was when Hitler bit the barrel of his gun. Fuck nazis. Our Jewish brothers and sisters out here in the diaspora are not to blame for what the Israeli fascist regime is doing.
You know I’d never heard of these guys until the outrage and I’ve been listening all day and I’m quite a fan.
Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.
- Jack Kirby was threatened for drawing Captain America punching Hitler. The difference back then was the mayor of NYC pot a protection detail on the Marvel offices instead of coming out to bat for Hitler.
- Charlie Chaplin released The Great Dictator in 1939, and while Hitler banned the film in Nazi-controlled countries, he allegedly watched it more than once after Chaplin personally arranged to have a copy sent to him (the balls on that guy).
  Maybe not "death to Hitler," but it's fucking scathing, and the final speech would be considered extreme if it was released today.
  Fantastic film if anyone hasn't seen it. Hysterical, on point satire.
- It's more interesting to ask if " Death to Hitler" would have got you this reaction in the 30s. By the 40s we were at war with him and his followers. In the 30s he was in power, but there were still diplomatic relations.
  
  Haha, no. You underestimate the power antisemitism has always had in the US
- Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.
  Among the Axis countries yes.
  
  Even among the allied countries, yes.
  There was still a lot of people who were afraid of offending Hitler/Germany at the time.
The IDF are Nazis and committing genocide daily.
People chanting: “Death, death to the IDF!!” Is the bare minimum repercussion that’s to be expected. More people should join in!
Anyone defending or censoring for the IDF if a fucking goose stepping fascist.
So their US visas got revoked. Meh. Who needs to go to the US anyway, who needs to be interrogated by some fascist chode at the border.
- Sadly, they will probably be convicted of some sort of hate speech and sent down.
As someone in another post commented: Streisand effect. I never heard of these guys until now.
The genocide apologists are going to have a lot of egg on their face. They just keep digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole. History is written by the victors, but the younger generations have the last word. And history will not be kind.
- its great PR/good press for said artist.
  
  Dropped from the label, they removed their visas in the usa so a ct on their revenus and could face "justice"
  It is a good pr for the palestinian cause not the artist
We will never forget the perpetrators of these crimes. And we will never forget the people that tried to sweep this genocide under the rug. Palestinians have the right to defend themselves. It's not a terrorist act to fight against brutal settlers and colonizers.
A punk band is not real because they say they are real. A punk band is real when they speak truth to power. Big ups to Bob Vylan for putting their mouth where their money is.
Very well said. This guy needs a new label with some balls. Show them that this guy is bankable by a wider disgruntled public than by a few at the top who are playing theatrical chess.
Here's the merchandise site: https://bobvylan.myshopify.com/
- Lol, everything is sold out.
  
  The "Burn Britannia Sauce" is still available.
  Also funny how, like with kneecap, the Zionist ghouls act all surprised, when artists use the same expressions they use normally, when they state their opposition to genocide.
  
  Not true, there is music still available.
- So far as I'm aware, their label hasn't dropped them. Their agents have, but fuck agents. Someone with some stones will snap 'em up in a heartbeat.
Bob vylan doesn't have to say it. The trump administration said it to the world they would do this
Could someone with better search skills or knowledge of their discography link to their music for me? I’ve heard it’s good but I legitimately can’t find anything but news videos when I go looking (I don’t use any music handler platforms)
- https://www.discogs.com/artist/7758817-Bob-Vylan-2
  
  Thanks!
- Start with their second album, We Live Here. It's got some incredible, visceral punk on it. The Price of Life, and Humble As the Sun are top notch, but a touch more polished.
- Let’s be precise here: the IDF, being an occupying army, under international law is absolutely a legitimate target for violent armed Palestinian resistance. Legitimate target of violent armed resistance. Period.
  Bob Vylan are not calling for the destruction of an ethnicity, a religion, a nation. They are calling for the destruction of a genocidal army. Just like the South African Defence Forces of the South African Apartheid era absolutely deserved to be destroyed as a criminal organization, so do the Israeli Defence Forces of the Israeli Apartheid era.
  Conscription was also mandatory in Apartheid South Africa for whites. This does not absolve the whites who participated in Apartheid. Jewish history itself teaches us that "following orders" is not an excuse for carrying out a genocide. It is clear in fact, that the mandatory nature of the conscription is a mechanism for making all Israelis complicit, and should be a target for abolition by Israelis of conscience themselves, again, just like in Apartheid South Africa. And of course, it fucking is.
  Death to apartheid and death to its institutions. Never again this shit, for anyone, anywhere.
We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people.
He does know people can just read his lyrics, right?
- If you're referring to the "Death to the IDF" chant, let's be extremely fucking precise here: the IDF, being an occupying army, under international law is absolutely a legitimate target for violent armed Palestinian resistance. Legitimate target of violent armed resistance. Period.
  And Bob Vylan are not calling for the destruction of an ethnicity, a religion, a nation. They are calling for the destruction of a genocidal army. Just like the South African Defence Forces of the South African Apartheid era absolutely deserved to be destroyed as a criminal organization, so do the Israeli Defence Forces of the Israeli Apartheid era.
- Which songs in particular are you referring to?
- Yea you should try reading them
- It's clear you cannot.

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