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3w ago

China is cracking down on young women who write gay erotica

Haitang: China is cracking down on young women who write gay erotica

"Every word I once wrote has come back to haunt me," posted a writer who says she was arrested for "obscene" work.

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c056nle2drno

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Fucking dystopian. Tell me otherwise
- All porn is illegal in China. There are hundreds of queer romantic novels and such not being targeted, because they don't cross the line into graphic pornography. This is being framed as anti queer but it is actually anti porn
  
  The article makes the argument that it is overtly anti queer:
  The law targets "explicit descriptions of gay sex or other sexual perversions". Heterosexual depictions often have more leeway - works by acclaimed Chinese authors, including Nobel Laureate Mo Yan, have graphic sexual scenes, but are widely available.
  Although authors of heterosexual erotica have been jailed in China, observers say the genre is subjected to far less censorship. Gay erotica, which is more subversive, seems to bother authorities more. Volunteers in a support group for the Haitang writers told the BBC police even questioned some readers.
  
  Anti porn shit always comes for us. Always.
  
  You have Chicken with a counterargument for why it's anti queer in particular. I'll take your anti porn frame instead just for the sake of it: still dystopian. Especially written. You can't even make the case actors are being abused.
  
  Believe whatever you want I suppose
I’m sure the ML will totally ignore this.
- This is one of my bigger complaints with China.
- They are criticising china too, this is a stupid idea one way or another
- They will justify this.
  
  Maybe. More likely they will discard the validity of the story based on the source.
- Well, the Stalinists will. Lenin was a big fan of lesbian erotica!
- I love how they gave up arguing and just downvote.
Do not mess with the fujoshis
I mean I don't get why gay erotica is popular amongst women, but I'm not gonna make that somebody else's problem. The CCCP are just assholes.
- Same reason cis hetero men are the majority of the lesbian porn consumer. It's not sonething people usually say out loud in broad daylight but there's nothing wrong expressing someone's fantasy in form of fiction if proper zoning and warnings there.
  
  Sorry this is untrue because I am a woman and I consume 95% of the lesbian porn. I guess, as lesbian porn georg, I am an outlier and have not been counted
- Depends on the place and context. I don't know as much about the Chinese market for these things, but in a lot of cases for Japanese/Korean titles in this genre there's a number of fascinating elements that combine to make it appealing.
  It's about beautiful men and can focus on them a lot, for one, but it also offers vectors to discuss and engage with dynamics and/or social things which women are discouraged from expressing. A lot of the time, one of the couple in Boy's Love (for example) is intended to be a bit of a proxy stand-in for the female reader. They're more often the viewpoint character, and they get to be more vocal about sexual desire for men than a woman may feel comfortable writing a female character expressing.
  They also can engage with some kinds of stories about bigotry that can intersect with women's problems in sympathetic ways; and, if you're trying to deal with something that's really sensitive or traumatic as a woman, then having male characters go through something similar can give the appropriate level of emotional remove.
  Also, pretty men kissing!
  Like, I've been reading CLAMP stuff again and wow those are pretty men!
  I'm not a woman, mind you, but I've been reading this stuff for, like, 15+ years and these are my (incomplete) conclusions.
- Bread is a delivery mechanism for the contents of the sandwich. But what if you could remove the bread, and have double the sandwich contents instead?
  
  So its like the folks that throw meat and cheese into their mouths and then squirt mustard straight in there.
  
  So a salad with minced meat and ketchup? 🤔
I've read gay erotica by women and it's pretty good.
So they want their gay porn from authentically gay sources???
- No they want it from straight men.
  
  kinky.
Shithole country
- Being a tankie has nothing to do with age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity / expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, sexual identity, or orientation.
  It's a shite political opinion where this kind of OUTRIGHT BIGOTRY is excused, because of who's doing it. Fuck that and fuck anyone defending that.
  Rule 4 does not excuse silencing people who say: this is fucking awful. People who will defend it are wrong.
  Rule 4 is why those people are wrong.
  
  Nobody expressed any position before your comment. You were the first comment on this post. Instead of explaining your position you chose an unprompted attack. If you don't like that rule 4 was used, rule 3 also applied to that comment.
China so evil that banning child porn is seen as bad.

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