Australian police beat an opposition politician so badly that she might lose an eye -- simply for being at an anti-genocide protest.
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I'd feel better that we (Americans) don't have a monopoly of fascism if the topic wasn't goddamn fascism.
Not that is makes a difference to the morality, but it was an opposition candidate for The Greens in the PM's seat, not a current sitting pollie.
Morally it doesn't make a difference, but it does make a difference fascism wise (slightly)
So do I understand correctly that on this globe you can only be against genocide of the Palestinians if you live in an authoritarian country like China, Iran, Russia, etc.?
Obviously in those countries you can't be against their own genocides like the Uhigers, Ukrainians, etc. But somehow when it comes to Israel the rest of the world seems to not dare being against genocide?
Is is because the US is so powerful that they fear reprecusions? Or why is that?
You are overlooking Ireland. They support the Palestinians.
That's because they are very familiar with having a neighbor with a mindset like Israel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles
I think you'll find Western countries don't need much of an excuse to support colonial genocide.
I have the feeling Israel is a US puppet state that is being used to take control over the Middle East. (And destroy Islam while they are at it)
My biggest issue is Americans. Half of Americans support genocide, the other half want to moralize and lead the charge against it, which just comes off as hypocrisy considering i didn’t even get so much as an apology for all the bombings and invasions my country took by Americans. Now Americans are moralizing to my brown indigenous ass about colonialism and genocide and acting like once again Americans should lead this movement, which only cheapens it. Americans need to get in the back of the line and shut the fuck up. Support but leave your moralizing at home, and “I wasn't personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either. You guys fucked half the world and now you wanna move on and leave it in the past so you don’t have to take collective responsibility
Edit: getting downvoted by Americans who don’t like non whites calling them out for their bullshit. Biggest terrorist nation on earth
I mean, I def get what you’re saying. I do. But do you really have anti-genocide Americans saying something about “Americans should lead this movement?” Because that’s an insane take I can’t imagine you’ve really run into in the wild.
The US is the worst perpetrator of colonialist violence, no doubt.
“I wasn’t personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either. You guys fucked half the world and now you want to move on and leave it in the past so you don’t have to take collective responsibility.
What if I flipped this and said this is the exact rationale Israel is using against the population of Palestine? The population who’s been too young to have anything to do with anything Hamas has done, but they’re getting punished for it?
My point isn’t that the US has no blame. I don’t think you can actually find a US leftist who believes that. And if any US leftist is throwing blame all over the world without recognizing the history of the US? I mean, they’re beyond stupid.
My point is…why subdivide us further? The left is being repressed all over the world while fascism takes root once again. And your biggest gripe is…people who were born into a place? We should not be finding ways to take the high road over each other. Because there is a global rise of fascism while an active genocide takes place. And you’re here—if I can borrow a phrase—moralizing. To a T. You are claiming your biggest problem is with other people who agree with you, but who aren’t as pure of heart as you? You’re the real anti genocide crusader because ____?
Why. Why are we constantly using our morals and ideologies as cudgels against other people who would agree with us if we weren’t actively trying to find differences between us? We, the global working class should not be doing the work of the ruling class. And finding reasons to hate and belittle other working class people for generalized reasons beyond their control is very much doing the work for them.
So please stop. We have the most powerful tool of communication and global community at our fingertips and we’re using it to further divisions among the working class. When we could so easily harness it and mobilize a general strike that would cripple the ruling class in a matter of days. But this kind of moralizing you’re doing that is so common online (because corporations made social media and gave us an avenue to wear our ideas like patches, crippling three entire generations because we can’t see past that way of thinking) is the only thing stopping us.
And 99% of us vote for it every two years, because both ruling parties are warmongers.
But what gets me the most is that half of voters' opinions on war change depending on who's in power. The folks who are so anti-war right now would fully support it if Harris were in office, and that changing of opinions based on political convenience and nothing else just infuriates me. They still defend Obama's bloodied hands even though he was bombing seven different countries while in office. (That we know of)
and “I wasn't personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either.
It absolutely is, for both.
None of the 2 mentioned are genocided.
And the fact you're commenting about China, Iran, Russia, etc. neing authoritarian while there's full on censorship in the west about this post is typical.
You're part of the deluded, pretentious 10% of the world calling themselves 'the international community' with 'their western values'.
Already hated for centuries of imperialism and now this total support for genocidal maniacs.
Anyone in touch with people outside of the western online community knows they will not forget this either.
Genocide doesnt require direct killing. Forced sterilization and destruction of cultural identity is also genocide.
From Wikipedia:
"the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group" by means such as "the disintegration of [its] political and social institutions, of [its] culture, language, national feelings, religion, and [its] economic existence".
And there is plenty of documented proof of that. To deny that is to deny your own ability to see, read and think.
If one of them tries to walk out, do they just let them?
Watched an interesting take from one of the Chinese politician or whatever they are called there.
He was blaming the US imperial forces causing turmoil in Afghanistan which leaked into the Chinese side and fumed some of the locals now wanting to split from China and wanting their own nation. Pollie said their leader is an american citizen. So I guess china has been detaining these people? Who knows.
We must stand with Israel as they kill children and starve people and we beat the shit out of people who think that's bad. Do you care about kids? Fuck you. We'll kick your ass. Are you still defiant about hate? We'll kick your ass even harder. Israel has a right to genocide a people right in front of us. If you don't agree, you're an anti-semite.
This comment is sarcasm. Shut up. Fuck genociders.
Masks are off now for the pretentious 'western values' countries invariably lecturing others.
Better article including video of the assault and description of the police's woeful response to it.
And without a microsoft tracker. Comon people, please don’t share MSN links!
NSW Police attempted to move the group on, claiming the action was unauthorised.
This is scary to me, why do we need authorisation?
Pretty much all protest rights were stripped away in the last decade state by state, mostly as a reaction to environmental and climate protestets. Liberal and Labor both supported them. Only the Greens and some of the minor parties and independents were against them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_governing_public_demonstrations_in_Australia
I believe the last ones were Adelaide. But before that it was Melbourne, Sydney, etc. Its fucked and the major parties have zero desire to change the situation as it suits them.
Most western "democracies" turned protesting into a crime over the last 2 decades, under the guise of "national security" and other fallacies. Only a small percentage of the population took notice at the time, and the other 95+% are surprised that their rights were taken away when they weren't paying attention.
I request an eye for an eye
Oh, fuck off, what is this shit?!
An excuse to beat someone's face so hard they lose an eye.
So, you know, normal cop shit.
If you ask the state for permission to protest, you are quite literally their bitch