Chicago City Council passed an "Israel Solidarity Resolution". Despite DSA having 5 seats on the council, there was only one No vote
The No vote came from the only member who is not a Democrat.
I'm probably quitting the DSA over the refusal to discipline electeds especially on the issue of Palestine, but this statement is misleading.
The vote was a voice vote which means the 50 aldermen shouted "yea" or "nay" at the same time and the chair decided the outcome. One aldermen asked to be officially recorded in opposition to the resolution but Chicago DSA's statement claims a second DSA alderman spoke out against the resolution so it's likely he also voted in opposition. Nobody actually knows what anyone voted for unless they were in the room listening to them though, and by that point the room has been cleared by the cops.
Chicago Sun-Times and Chicago Defender both said there was only one dissenting vote, which is why I wrote that. I apologize if that isn't accurate, but I don't think it really matters.
Nice misinfo though, you had me going for a second, evergreen bit self crit needed
The No vote came from the only member who is not a Democrat.
You mean politicians running on Dem tickets will immediately capitulate to Dem party lines?
There’s not even such thing as a “dem ticket” for Chicago City Council. The elections are officially non-partisan. They chose to call themselves Democrats when there was zero reason to.
They chose to call themselves Democrats when there was zero reason to.
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Lol
BYLAWS
Article I. Membership
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Section 3.
Members may be expelled... if they are under the discipline of any self-defined democratic-centralist organization.
So you can be expelled for having principles, but not for having none?
In theory this is a way to prevent entryism (because Demcent is powerful). In practice it is used very inconsistently and mostly to exclude communists that a lib chapter doesn't like.
Defanged Socialists of America
tbf any decent demcent org would also not allow you to be a DSA member; PSL bars dual membership
though I'm guessing this DSA rule doesn't extend to members of the Democratic Party
Will the Chicago city council condemn the brutal terror attack by a lone landlord that killed a six-year old Palestinian boy and critically injured another?
I hate the use of the word "solidarity" in this.
Problem is, they probably mean it. As in material solidarity if they can arrange it. Not the usual lib solidarity of just saying solidarity and then doing nothing to help.
It’s settler-colonial solidarity.
It's not all bad though! Rally turnout numbers are in the thousands:
https://nitter.cz/MorganEliseJ/status/1713320228485022073#m
https://nitter.cz/cetondada/status/1713683401180328073#m
https://nitter.cz/hirinkhan0/status/1713421578845774109
After these 5 DSA seats ppl endorsed by them or actual members?
Either way DSA politicians usually
Despite it being a requirement in the bylaws of the organization, adhering to the policy positions of the organization is almost never actually required for membership, especially on the Palestine issue. Being endorsed is though.
They're all members.
Objectively the moderate wing of fascism.
Been watching this documentary today: https://youtu.be/3lSjXhMUVKE?feature=shared. Absolutely helps me understand better what is going on here in terms of manufacturing consent.
Chicago City Council passes pro-genocide resolution
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
The poster themselves admitted to making up the number of city council members, this is a hatchet job. If liberals get you to do their work for them, that makes you just as bad as any of these critiques, which they have. Good job posting, goof balls
Edit: self crit needed
The poster themselves admitted to making up the number of city council members
Do you mean me? I have no clue what you're talking about. If I got something important wrong, I can edit or delete the post
No you're right I misread when you said there was only one dissenting vote, I thought it said there was only one member of DSA that was the only dissenting vote, which looked to me like you said something outrageous, then walked it back in the comments.
In other words, I'm sorry. You were right, but I'm still agitated by a lot of the comments in this post thread. Not that I think it should be removed, I guess I think its unfortunate how many people would just write off someone who should be a comrade, just because they belong to an organization they know very little about.
But I genuinely agree, DSA electeds not giving full throated support for Palestinian liberation at every opportunity is a dereliction socialist principles. It'll be interesting to see how ChiDSA will respond
"Does it feel good to be a dog of the US empire?"
They have
flags flying next to Chicago flags on their bridges. Of course they would side with fascists.
DSA has voted again and again to not hold elected reps accountable for their votes and policies.
Shit like this is why democratic centralism is a thing.
I hope that view changes. Isn't their conference coming up?
It happened this summer. They did not vote for any accountability mechanisms for electeds, they approved a "we are anti-Zionist organization" statement, and procedurally dissolved the BDS group that had been targeted after demanding consequences for Bowman.
This is so untrue, people were actually at the convention you know. Complete misrepresentation of the debate, probably from lack of understanding, or else correct me comrade