2mo ago

E: (not actually nuclear) take: "Enjoying solitary activities is counterrevolutionary because communism is about community" is inherently ableist against neurodiverse people

I have seen the quoted take unironically upvoted here on Hexbear

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I live in a one room apartment with 15 other masoists (white terrorists) who get very angry at me when I try to go to the bathroom alone.
- I think this means you won communism.
Sounds like a cold ass take to me, claiming that any kind of recreative activity is counterrevolutionary is pretty unserious in the first place and yes, forcing people to be in a group when they don't want to is ableist
- i do, as i've seen so many people in progressive-leaning spaces online legit say that "if you have difficulties socializing, maybe you're just a horrible person"
  
  Yeah, and ironically it seems to be a specifically online thing. The comrades in my org know I'm autistic, know I struggle socially, and they've been wonderfully accommodating.
  
  "if you have difficulties socializing, maybe you're just a horrible person"
  I’ve seen that quite a bit, especially when it comes to the realm of dating.
  But enjoying solitary things is counterrevolutionairy is not something I’ve really seen on here and I think sometbing might be lost in translation. But hey, you’re probably right!
- a world in which you can instantly gratify yourself alone, all the time, in lieu of having to go outside and talk to and then fuck someone else, is one which forgoes the development of constitutive attachments with others, a necessary requirement of community.
  Sitting at +17.
  
  okay, the whole thread is cringe, but i'll have to agree with the others that you might be mischaracterizing the argument here
- I wouldn't classify a post saying "somebody else once said gaming isn't a hobby" as being 'close to' Hexbear posts declaring solitary enjoyment to be counterrevolutionary.
  The only similarity between the claim and your linked post is 'talking about other people doing things'.
Alot of people here have thinly veiled contempt for whatever is deemed "loser" behaviour
This is true.
Enjoying ANY activities is counterrevolutionary! Solitary or social! Sorry to ruin your TREATS!
It really seems like so many leftists, even on Hexbear, will give a take that is inadvertently reactionary because questioning if the logic of these takes can negatively impact marginalized people is often an afterthought.
The "go outside and touch grass with friends and family on new years instead of being on hexbear" struggle session we had a few years ago really sucked
- I've always understood the grass to be allegorical, but i'm not a hexbear literalist, i do have a lot of photos of myself touching grass ironically tho
if this is a nuclear take that is very concerning tbh
- I may have exaggerated a bit, but I've seen the sentiment upvoted on this site more than once.
  
  anyone saying this sucks ass
- What's a nuclear take?
  
  like a hot take but more
This is nuclear like a microwave who thinks this. Community is important but community means a lot of different things to a lot of different people
what a fuckass take (not yours, obviously)
i swear to god, i feel like this is a massive problem in leftist spaces in general. they seem to be mostly populated by sociable extroverts who operate on the subconscious belief that introverts or people who are not particularly socila (not just neurodivergent people) are wrong somehow, and so these spaces feel pretty hostile. i hope i'm wrong, but time and time again i keep seeing evidence of that
- For having had one foot into an org or two I second this, it feels like extraversion is a matter of survival. I've got social anxiety which meant basically every common task is out of reach
Whenever I try to do a little bit of solitary reading one of my comrades snatches the book out of my hand and calls a house story hour & read aloud sesh (AFTER the struggle sesh chastising me for reading alone)
That or even just people with shitty schedules.
there definitely prevails a disdain for loners, "losers" and friendless people in culture, that a lot of (especially neurotypical) leftists have not really done the work to overcome internally.
Yeah man idk if we should be copying the behaviours of Japanese student cults that lead to them progressively murdering themselves off.
A lot of hexbear skews young, if there's a time in your life you'll enjoy making grand declarations and sweeping generalisations it's when young.
- We're locking ourselves into a freezing cabin up some Japanese mountain and doing self crit hazing sessions
  
  Hexbear in a nutshell
Comrades poop together
I spent 4 hours silently mending a pair of pants last night, gulag me
- And what if you would do the same mending for your friends clothes! Is that not community minded? People really are on the internet just saying shit lol
  
  Yeah because nobody’s saying you’re counterevolutionary for enjoying being alone, they’re saying you can’t build communism alone
Summa Hexbearmen declared, "If I can't ~~dance~~ play solitare, I don't want to be in your revolution,"
Yeah... that's a pretty silly way to frame things.
"No, I don't want to be a part of your polycule. Just give me a shovel and go the fuck away, I got holes to dig." ~ Me after the revolution.
Show me one instance of someone who posted that as anything other than a solitary effort. I'll wait.
Solo posting smh
extrovert supremacy
Workers who enjoy solitude unite!
- Unite? I dunno, that sounds like it involves being around other people.
- Probably tankies
  Do you know where you are
  
  Probably tankies
  All MLs I met irl are fast-life partygoers lmao
  Edit : oh wait maybe they meant MLs were ableist idk, they'd also be wrong they're not more ableist than other leftists if not less

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