UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill.
Statewatch | UK: Ministry of Justice secretly developing ‘murder prediction’ system
The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.
Why are they rebooting "Minority Report?" The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don't need a new one.
Thought crimes. Neat.
It's the minority report wtf
Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?
Call it Minority Report
Because they will inevitably target minorities?
Because of the early 2000's movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.
Niooce.
It's just institutional racism with extra steps
hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting "predictions" be racist
at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):
Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.
Yeah, can’t say that I disagree
Didn't they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?
E: yeah, fuck this shit.
Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?
No silly, not after they input race.
So what's the plan after that? You can't arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.
The UK isn't the US, the government can't just do whatever it wants and get away with it.
Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won't. This is just the start. They're slowly warming you all up to it until it's going to be too late. There's no such thing as "This can't happen here!". It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don't organise and stop it.
I've read through the entire article and I can't find anywhere where it says that they will actually be acting in the data. It also says in the article that this project was started by the conservatives not labour so again I don't necessarily think there's cause for concern right now. Also the fact the government even responded to the freedom of information request seems to suggest that it isn't actually a secret project.
It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully "nah mate, you haven't done a thing. I'm just here to watch. For now. Carry on."
Yet.
Aha the "it might happen" argument, used to justify pretty much any amount of pearl clutching that one feels is necessary.
I'm not saying it's impossible but just saying it might happen and then providing no actual evidence as to why that might happen doesn't really constitute an argument. We might have super intelligent AI by next month, but we probably won't so I'm not going to worry about it.
Reminder to watch Minority Report again... I don't even remember whether that movie was any good or not
Can't believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.
It’s great!
And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol' repression.
As a data engineer:
Number of subreddits banned from?....site wide, that's a lot of subreddits lol.
570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.
Data on "hundreds of thousands" of people can't provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.
It can reliably predict when people are black, though.
Oh boy! ...Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!
So... What happens when it is wrong?
We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.
Touché, indeed.
No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.
Great—let’s test it on politicians and law enforcement first.
US LEO are the real ones. In UK+EU they really aren't murderous villains, many don't even carry a gun.
And politicians don't murder, they just fleece us.
This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.
I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.
Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you'll do when you are released?
Getting closer to PSYCHO-PASS
I think I saw a Tom Hanks movie about this
WIIILLLLSSSSOOOONNNN!!!!!
Tom Cruise?
What, some weird fanfic of You've Got Mail?
Hasn't this been tried before? and failed
Let's call it project insight.
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