Don't blame Satan if things don't work out. It's God's plan right?
Don't blame Satan if things don't work out. It's God's plan right?
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26936109
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Among other things, that's always been my gripe with Christians saying "I'll pray for [X]"
Like...isn't everything that happens supposedly god's will? Wouldn't praying for something else to happen be like you saying you know better than your infallible god?
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American Christian: .... if I live and act like a shitty human being, hate everyone, try to make as much money as possible, no matter who it affects and I get away with it all without consequences ... it's because God allowed it and it's part of his plan. My shitty self is allowed by God and shouldn't be stopped or prevented. If you say something against me, you are blaspheming God's plan and you will burn in hell forever and ever and ever, amen.
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I never found freewill and omnipotence incompatible
Imagine you’re God. You are omniscient, so whatever decision you make no matter how complex you can see all of time with and without that decision.
It’s like looking at the trajectory of a mars landing — it’s complicated, but you can plan it out and see the whole path.
So in my head God goes ahead and makes some choice, being omniscient he sees all the outcomes and individual trajectories of our lives, but from our vantage point we still have the ability to choose and make decisions, God just knows what the full arc looks like. It’s relative. There’s nothing incompatible there.
That being said, I’m atheist/agnostic. I’m an egalitarian and I believe if there is a god it would be asinine to judge us for our faith instead of our actions.
The alternative would be sentencing billions who never learned of Christianity to hell or purgatory for reasons outside their control. That doesn’t make sense to me.
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Omnipotent and omniscience are two different things. If "God" is omnipotent then he could create an environment where all humans have a life they're happy with. That's not the case. Little children are murdered every day. If "God" is just omniscience then he/she/it is a fortune teller? It seems completely incompatible to me. Or "God" is just an omnipotent asshole.
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Didn't god punish us and condemn us to eternal suffering for attaining free will?