Democrat Al Green removed from House after interrupting, heckling Trump
He said speaking up during the address was the best way “get across to a person who uses his incivility, who uses his incivility against our civility.”
Why didn't every Democrat step forward and PHYSICALLY bar him from being removed. They just sat there and let him be ejected. STAND THE FUCK UP
I thought the same thing. Then I thought about how powerful of a visual it would have been for each one of them, in turn, to cause a disruption and be escorted out. Let the cameras pan over a half filled chamber after 2 hours of meticulous protesting. That image would be in history books 100 years from now, assuming we all survive the next 4.
Because they’re weaker than wet tissue paper.
True, unless it comes to fighting progressives in their own party. Then they suddenly remember how to fight.
Sir, this is a retirement home congress. They might break a hip.
Not saying I disagree with your premise.
However, there are some strange brew rules that come into play depending on the #of reps in attendance in the house. You dwindle the dem #s enough and you end up allowing the reps the ability to run amok with the kinds of legislation they’re salivating to pass.
I’m sure this was at top of mind for some of the folks in attendance.
You dwindle the dem #s enough and you end up allowing the reps the ability to run amok with the kinds of legislation they’re salivating to pass.
That's why there's also quorum rules. There has to be a minimum of X% of the congresspeople present for anything to count and I'm 99.9% certain that all of the Dems leaving would bring the number present under that even if every single Republican was present.
Congressional rules are meaningless. They are not the constitution. If the Democrats are going to just sit idle because of "congressional rules" then they might as well start using the constitution as toilet paper
I kept waiting for it! For a moment, I had a swell of hope that they were going to force the Sargeant at Arms to remove them one by one, or else block Al from being removed, something, anything with a little fucking Chutzpah, but nope. They all just sat down, shut up, and waved their stupid little signs. Good job guys, I can't wait to see your next fundraising text.
It reminded me, very randomly, of quote from a book about urban design and how architectural ideas are introduced and accepted by the public… or not.
From this the "principle of the second man" can be formulated: it is the second man who determines whether the creation of the first man will be carried forward or destroyed...
It was a golden chance and a room full of cowards let it slip.
The book is Design of Cities by Edmund Bacon for anyone interested.
Is there a better representation of the american people who couldn't be bothered voting in the first place??
Even AOC sat quietly? Why wasn't she fucking protesting?
She wasn't there apparently?
AOC talks a big game, but I’m not personally convinced she follows through.
Case in point, this situation. There should have been more democrats doing the same thing.
Why didn’t anyone do anything? They talk a big game on social media, but that’s it.
I’m thinking they are either controlled opposition or too enthralled to corporate donations to do anything.
another armchair general calling for the dems to arm themselves and perform a revolution or else they're nazi sympathizers
this is what civil politics in a non banana republic looks like
No dumb fuck. You ever read a history book? Congress used to have literal fist fights.
Defending yourselves from being ejected from your literal work place, a place YOUR constituents elected you to be at, by someone who is by not a single ounce of the definition, your boss, is not violence. It is not "arming" yourself, IT IS LITERALLY DOING WHAT YOUR OATH OF OFFICE STATES, TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES
Did Margie get ejected when she was behaving like a braying walrus? I didn't see anything suggesting that she was kicked out at the time.
That bitch so damn ugly dawg
She is a POS indeed.
WHERE WERE THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS? FUCKING SITTING. They didn't have the intestinal fortitude to be kindly escorted out like this old dude with a fucking cane; they walked Al out and their collective spine went with him. Johnson told them to shut up and they fucking did; they either sat there quietly with their stupid little signs, went to sleep, or walked out on their own. Fuck you, make me should be the order of the day! I've never been more ashamed of the democrats than this absolute display of submission with the slightest bit of bullying. Resistance my ass, resistance doesn't quietly walk itself out of the building!
The only Dem who wasn't a coward. Either walk out with him or talk shit back to Trump instead just sitting there in pink outfits.
When it was happening I was hoping deeply that another Democrat would pick after he was removed to filibuster the SOTU. I suppose it's naive of me but for a moment I thought the democrats had organized an actual visible protest.
Apparently, they believe that sitting silently while waving tiny signs sent a stronger message.
Truly the greatest minds of our time.
EDIT: PINK! They also wore pink! I almost forgot! Just like everyone else.
Those tiny round signs on sticks were absolutely ridiculous. What are they, crossing guards? Might as well be, because crossing guards would have more guts and more principles.
Sorry, best we can do is wearing pink shirts as a group and quietly walking out with our #resist t-shirts
Democratic Lawmaker ejected from House after DOING HIS JOB!!
Thank you Al Green. At least you stood up.
Is there some way we can show his office that the whole country is demanding their local constituents stand up like this?
Or our own local offices?
Call today, email, send this news story. Ask why your local rep didn't stand up. Show that we're demanding a fucking stand be made.
Go off script. Add that.
Only democrat there with a spine. Hope the rest get replaced
Here was how The New York Times put it:
In Mr. Green’s case, he was not only challenging the president but also defying the entreaties of Democratic congressional leaders that members attend Mr. Trump’s speech and refrain from disruptions. The spectacle of a septuagenarian heckling the president while waving his cane was not ideal for Democrats, who have toiled to land on a broadly appealing message and messenger for countering Mr. Trump.
This is exactly the kind of behavior I want to see from Democrats. A deeply unserious person like Donald Trump deserves to be heckled like the bad fucking joke he is.
These fucking Democrats are watching a dude successfully lie and bully his way into the presidency (not to mention that same playbook get adopted by the GOP in general) then think the answer is to be nice?
Newsflash, the voters on the other side aren't going to be swayed by a "broadly appealing message," I'd say an insignificant number of people could even be swayed to switch voting from the GOP / MAGA bastards over to the Dem sonofabitches anyways. So galvanized the troops, motivate people to vote and stop pussyfooting around.
Adopt the playbook that keeps working for your enemy, tweak it some sure, but stop thinking a milquetoast "we're the nice guys" campaign will ever work. It's failed so many times now, maybe learn a lesson?
Yeah how's being broadly appealing working out?
Great for the fascists!
Er. Where is this "broadly appealing message and messenger for countering Trump" that has been so toiled over?
Anyone watching it would have been just as angry at the horseshit coming out of Trump's mouth.
Literally everything he said was either a lie, some narcissistic ego jerk-off, a shot at Biden, or some racist rant about "most immigrants are murderers".
And the clapping and cheering. Disturbing cultism.
Wow good job holding a sign! Maybe she can march in a protest next.
Kudos to Green for actually doing something though. Good to know not all Dems are completely shit.
And what are you doing?
It was also ripped out of her hand by some GOP congressman
The Democrats seemed unorganized, nobody is leading them like Trump is leading Republicans. Here's a gimmick I'd like to see them use next time.: Every time Trump says a blatant lie - call it out - LOUD. One by one, watch how many people get thrown out throughout the speech.
22 Billion cut to HHS is a ton though. Surely that will go toward paying down the deficit? Good on Green for bringing attention to it.
It's an issue in the US that the opposition doesn't have a leader until the election is getting close, in a parliamentary system Harris would still be their leader until someone else took her place and she would dictate how the party acts in response to the Republicans.
They also need to learn a lesson from other countries and to form a shadow government.
More of this.
Democrats cosplay resistance heroes while systemic collapse accelerates. Real opposition requires more than cane-waving, classic 2 behavior.
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they are basically like resistance grifters you see being posted on reddit.
Wait, did Trump visit the House? Did I miss the state of the union?
The presidents first visit to the joint session isn’t called the state of the union, but this visit was the equivalent.
He addressed a joint session of congress
You behave inappropriately, you get thrown out.
Oh, how I wish that were true. I wish Republicans had the moral fortitude to throw him out. But sadly, they cheered for Trump—the literal king of inappropriate behavior—as he waved his hand to dismiss the only Democrat who had the guts to stand up to every lie he was spewing.