5mo ago

Americans choose most expensive way possible to discover what goods made in Canada

The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.

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In IT it’s called the scream test. You unplug it and see who screams.
- I have literally done this. Had a VM I didn’t know who owned in my lab, so I turned it off to see who complained or if it was really unnecessary. 3 min later I get a slack message asking if a VM was running.
- Here's some hints...the lumber we need to build houses, the oil we use to power/heat those houses and transport goods around the country (so, anything that spends time on a semi or delivery truck) and cement. So anyone that needs to purchase things that's are transported or wants a house should be piping up soon.
  
  Natural gas for heating.
  
  I love how they didn't even exempt heating oil for the northern states. They acknowledged that tariffing it was fucked up by only doing a 10 percent tariff on it but it didn't cross their minds to just exempt it. A ten percent price increase on heating is going to literally kill people.
- My favorite
- Never heard of the scream test in 40 years of software dev, but I like it.
  
  That’s because it’s the ops guys who turn off all your sites.
  
  Sounds like you need to live life more dangerously.
This doesn't even have to be The Onion, but just straight news. This is exactly how it is going to work.
I saw some of the dipshit commenters on a WSJ article giving examples of things affected and how their prices might change - lots of "Well, I don't need these things, and paying 5 cents more for making brown people suffer is worth it, anyway!"
Yeah, I guess we will see....
- But the twist is that it still won't be portrayed as Trump's fault. Unfair Canada declares war for no reason or whatever.
  
  Oh, without a doubt. I've already seen some of their ridiculous people try to prep their stupid base with "....but it will be worth it" kind of narratives. I bet you'll hear more than a few of the marks parrot this idiocy.
- I’ve seen a lot of “Canada needs us more than we need them”. Going to be a big wake up call when gas, electricity, cars, groceries, and a dozen other things suddenly jump more than 25% (because we all know the corpos will take the excuse to extract more value).
Did no one watch “How It’s Made”?
That’s how I found out what goods are made in Canada.
Like, you know, gum. Fucking bubble gum. The smallest-possible, easiest-to-make, most-ubiquitous thing. Found in every convenience store, drug store, newsstand, and vending machine.
Do we make that in the States? Nooo… we gotta import that shit from our neighbors to the North. Like, do we make anything here?
- Not the raised lettering on every toy saying 'made in china'?
- We make double trouble here. Double bubble is too tame
- companies
- We do but NAFTA really made things spread out. We've made a lot more progress unifying the North American economies than people think. This is going to be ten times as painful as Brexit was for the British. And to undo it Mexico and Canada are going to demand we take on a trade deficit with them as a way of helping their economies in case the deal goes south with the president after whoever is fixing this mess.
This'll really help the price of eggs
Machined components!
You stupid sonobabich! You know a machined part costs less in Canada than here. But that's not going to make parts here cost less! Its going to make my business fail instead!
It's going to be a little painful not having a job and living in the streets with my wife and kids freezing to death. It's fucking snowing outside.
I can design and sell a few things here and there but a few means machining is expensive. In the US you must buy a Shit ton of parts to make the price per part work, but if you fuck up on an order, that's a huge deal. From Canada I can order a few parts, change something, order again. The scrap cost goes into the price to the costumer. In not gonna get fired if I screwup one order! (Famous last words). I don't get paid less either. But if one screw up costs now as much as ten, then the price of the part becomes impossible to sell....think $15 for two small bottles of water at the AMC theater...theaters are done. I paid because I was thirsty, but fuck if I'm ever going back to watch a movie. At least I'm boot legging my own water.
- If you're actually in danger of homelessness I encourage you to look at the many guides to doing it in a way that makes it easier to get back off the street as soon as possible. A lot of people try to hold on for far too long and end up in legal trouble and blacklisted from renting a place.
  As to McFuckstick, there's not much we can do until 2026. I'm sorry he's put you in a bad position.
  
  I'm not gonna go homeless but I'm definitely in negative growth.
  In December I had $300 bucks on a gift card that I wanted to spend on my photography hobbies. Now I've just loaded the monies into the bank account and my hobby is looking at the wall. Looking at my phone is enough photography I guess.
  But I remember how it was to be homeless when I had just migrated here. How can I be here looking towards a future that includes that as a real possibility? I'm just here awaiting the new part pricing I'm gonna face. It sucks.
Be prepared to spend more on trucks. Ford makes their seats in Canada
- Also truckers crossing the border now have to pay double the fee to cross.
- Don't forget other car parts, nickel, other minerals, oil, agricultural, and much more.
They very nicely slipped a Nuremberg defense reference in there.
Cool so I guess it will be BRIMCCS now.
- SCRIMBC (its Pronunciation will be "SKRIM-bik") easier on the tongue
Nearly 90 million voting eligible Americans chose to not vote at all with a confirmed white supremacist, rapist and convicted felon on the ballot.
Many of us warned that if he won, democracy would end forever.
- "It can't be as bad as they say it will"
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollyanna_principle
  
  Nailed it
- Some of them might have wanted to vote but their votes were suppressed
  https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
  
  90 million weren't suppressed.
It's not Americans choosing this. Its our dictator, Felonious 47
- you can't get out of it this time. he won the popular vote. not voting is voting.
  
  I voted.
  
  He didn't win, vote-suppression won.
  Besides you could argue the non-vote were the more popular choice because people are fed up with FPTP-voting.
  
  Winning the popular vote doesn't mean everyone voted for him. Besides, realistically he didn't even do that.
Well, my syrup is made from corn, so...
- That shit should be illegal to sell up here in Canada. I see it in stores right next to the pure Canadian maple syrup which doesn’t cost that much more than the fake corn syrup crap. The aunt Jemima costs like $6 and the real stuff is $10
  
  Y'all still have aunt jemima? They rebranded here to pearl milling recently.
Americans did not. An orange fascist, who Americans also did not ask for, did
- he won the popular vote this time, so they did ask for it. sorry.
- Americans allowed this prick to pursue a political career. Any sane country would've laughed him into oblivion.
- Nope, I'm sorry but as a country we absolutely did.
Americans didn’t chose this.
- Those who voted certainly did. Those who chose to not vote did also. I don't live in America but it was incredibly obvious this was coming. America chose to be represented by by this guy who said quite clearly what he was going to do.
  
  And everything that's happened so far was clearly spelled out in the project 2025 document. But people don't read and now they're all Pikachu face surprised.
  
  His owner/donor fElon said as much, too. That we are going to suffer, but it will be worth it (to billionaires, I'm sure, not to the peasants he thinks need to "live within their means").
  
  Wait, I voted for Harris, but I chose this?
- Americans did choose this.
  Either by directly voting for him or looking at the choices and deciding not to participate.
  
  Saying “Americans” indicates the intent was to accuse ALL Americans of supporting trump. That’s demonstrably false. And I believe that blanket statements should be called out when they are wrong.
  I am an American. That makes me part of the term “Americans” when it’s spoken. I did not vote for him. Therefore, saying American chose this is wrong.
- This must be a yank version of the no true Scotsman fallacy.
  
  It's people trying to absolve themselves of their civic responsibility.
  
  Naah. It’s just the less nuanced version of the blanket false accusations suck statement that I’ve already made several times now.
  I didn’t vote for him. Therefore, not ALL Americans chose this.
- only half of them
  
  Less than half in fact. Surprisingly, more than a third of our voting body didn’t vote. And that’s how he won.
- Umm what was all that noise and wind about back in November then?
  
  You mean all the bots and edgelord kids telling everyone not to vote against trump, and instead vote third party? Or did you mean all the bots and edgelord kids that shouted at everyone to stay home in protest?
  Because if it wasn’t either of these two- I saw a lot of people urging others to vote for Harris. Otherwise known as the one person that had a chance to defeat trump. All while warning them of what would happen if they didn’t.
  And if I recall correctly- those warnings looked a lot like what’s happening right fucking now.
  MANY of us didn’t choose this. So don’t blame all of America for this shit. Be precise- blame the asshole single-issue dipshits that protested their way into a trump victory…There’s all still around-
  Go on… Be my guest.
- Those who didn't vote don't matters. I don't know why we're supposed to acknowledge their existence in these discussions. In every way that actually matters, Americans chose this.
  
  Soooo…. all of Germany chose Hitler? Of course they didn’t.
  I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.

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