2y ago

No love lost: AppLovin helpfully releases tool to switch from Unity to Godot or Unreal

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AppLovin’s attempts to acquire Unity last year turned sour when Unity opted for a merger with rivals ironSource instead . Now, in the ongoing shockwave of Unity's unpopular introductio...

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2y ago

No love lost: AppLovin helpfully releases tool to switch from Unity to Godot or Unreal

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Wow well I guess I'll eat crow. I never thought that was possible to automate but given the use of LLMs I guess it is... Excited to see how it turns out
- From their GitHub, they use this prompt to ChatGPT:
  You are professional Unity engineer who is migrating a large project from Unity platform to Godot 4.1. Migrate code to GDScript, which you are an expert in. Follow the following rules: 1. Output code only, put explanations as comments. 2. Do not skip any logic. 3. Preserve all comments without changing. 4. If migration is impossible leave "TODO [Migrate]" comment. 5. Use GDScript best practices. 6. Convert camelCase variable names and method names to snake_case. 7. Unity namespaces should migrate into 'class_name' directive. 8. Unity class should migrate into 'class_name' directive.
  Personally I find this kind of thing adorable and I hope it works out for them
  
  That’s actually pretty hilarious.
  
  Does ChatGPT's code get better if you include "You're an expert in that language" in the prompt?
  
  I'm pretty interested to see the prompt they use for Unreal
It's interesting to me that articles mention godot before unreal. I mean this is not the first time I see it
- There is a potential chance of unreal doing the same stupid shit afterall
  
  The conspiracy theorist in me always thought stuff like this was the result of corporate espionage; a loyal employee of a rival firm joins their competitor's ranks and works their way up and finally gets the commanding role, only to announce something this dumb and then take it back (losing their reputation without anything in return) and then the guy leaves the company and finds a comfortable position on the board of their original rival company.
  But... No? These people really are that stupid and actually did that to themselves.
  And these are the people being paid 300x the salary of ordinary, hard working people!
  
  Epic allows devs to stay under the license terms for specific versions of the engine. If they started charging for installs, devs can just use the older engine versions and avoid the charges.
- However it's currently difficult for games made for Godot to port to consoles (XBox, PlayStation, Nintendo Switch,... not those non-Switch "gaming handhelds" since they are all just Windows/Linux handheld PCs) while keeping Godot open source since the SDKs, APIs, porting kits of these consoles are proprietary and you have to sign in NDAs. If most of your games' revenues are from consoles, you don't have much choice currently.
  
  Unreal Engine royalties only start after you make $1 million from a project. Even then, it's 5%, and waived for sales done on the Epic Store (whose 13% cut is almost a third of what Steam takes). If you are a small indie dev, you won't be paying Epic a dime unless you start rolling in some serious dough, and even when you do, 5% of your revenue for using one of the most powerful 3D game engines is pretty fair
- That's because both Unity and Godot use C# while Unreal uses C++ for development. It is much easier to move from Unity to Godot since they use the same language for development. Moving to Unreal basically means starting over.
  
  Unity C# and Godot C# havr different APIs and writing in GDScript is best practise in godot afaik
  
  Pretty sure Godot has it's own scripting language (hence the prompt converting all the C#/JS code from Unity).
  Unreal is C++ but it's also another commercial proprietary engine, so they could rug-pull in the same way.
  
  I mean, UnrealCLR exists
- It’s interesting to me that articles mention godot before unreal.
  Epic pulled different shenanigans a few years ago that put licensees of Unreal Engine at risk of having their work pulled from their customers.
- Makes sense to not immediately jump into another walled garden if you have the option.
I think they're really overestimating ChatGPT's ability to code. Also how do they plan on fitting a context that big.
- It's is probably more of sending a message.
Finnanly ,game dev maybe will start moving in open source side.
AppLovin’s attempts to acquire Unity
I don't think the journalist quite understands the relationship here.
Oh... Oh that is beautiful. Just chef's kiss

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