They weigh my carry on and complain when it's 1kg over, yet some people weighing twice as much as me get on the plane. Makes no sense.
That weight limit is how much an employee can lift by themselves in America(50 pounds). If it's over they have to team lift.
Your fellow passenger will be in a seat, not the overhead baggage compartment.
Just weigh and charge people with their baggage. Privacy and embarrassment about mass can be blamed on the bag.
This will add a new terror to air travel
From an engineering point of view it makes really good sense because the better you can estimate a plane's weight the better you can maximize efficiency blah blah blah. But these are humans not numbers, and it's a bit rude..
Personally I think it's a bit rude when someone is hanging over into my seat, pressed up against me and forcing me out into the aisle. I'd like to sit in 100% of my seat please.
I put some weight on over the pandemic and I do sympathise that losing weight is quite hard. But fuck if it got to the point I needed 1.5 seats, I'd either do something drastic about it (like the time I had 500 calories a day for a few months and dropped from 15 to 12.5 stone, sorry for the caveman units), or book two seats.
Planes have a maximum weight, and it really matters where exactly in the plan that weight is. Even if it was rude, which it isn't, it can be an important safety concern
It can't be safety concern, comercial airplanes already fly with an lenormous margin of fuel, it is probably to allow the company to reduce this margin since they know the exact value and it is not an approximation that would always consider the worst case.
This will probably mean that airplanes would take off with less fuel average that can reduce the safety of the fly by almost nothing and reduce a little the cost for the company.
It should not increase the safety of the fly because it is already too high related to fuel.
If it's rude they can buy 2 tickets for their fat ass and skip the requirements to be weighed
Humans not able to battle climate change, because they can't admit their weight.
I'm comfortable in my weight. However, my girlfriend is not. We won't be flying any airline that weighs us. That would be a small crisis for her.
That would be a small crisis for her.
Hah!
Shit - that wasn't meant to be a pun
You have your whole luaggage scanned, body scans, fingerprints, passport and even custom officers asking you where you stay and god knows what background checks are going on, but weight is gonna be an issue ?
It's a slippery slope. Soon they'll have two separate queues, and one of them will be called "fatties".
Make them walk through a narrow gate to see how many seats they need to buy.
And this is how humans evolved to have whiskers.
It's a slope I'm willing to slide down.
Until you get stuck on the sides, yeah
The "GLP-1 queue" & the "Non-GLP-1 queue".
I welcome it. I'm harassed for the 1kg excess in my bag. If you're not charging others more, I'd like not to be treated like that. Give me a discount then for every kilogram I weigh less by.
Do you seriously think it would work that way? They wouldn't charge you a single cent less. Probably charge others more though.
I think what they mean is that if their neighbor is allowed to weight 120kg with 8kg of carry-on and they weight 85kg, they might as well be allowed heavier carry-on. Doesn't have to be one on one, and of course the carry-on weight limit is also done for a few other reasons, but that seems to be the idea.
To be fair: Carry-on that is weighty is a safety risk. So is me in a window seat with a person that can barely fit into a single seat in the two seats aisle-side from me.
...the overweight baggage charge is because of health and safety, not plane weight. Anything over 20 kilos is too heavy for a single person to safely handle so they have to get two people to deal with it, which takes more time
You on the other hand aren't being handled by anyone. You're not a health hazard.
Could you share the source to this please?
On September 16, it became evident that airlines were becoming more interested in passengers’ weight. Prominent carriers like Korean Air and Air New Zealand introduced a rather unconventional rule, requiring passengers to step on scales before boarding their flights. [...] This novel approach in the aviation industry has gained momentum, with the objective of maintaining optimal aircraft weight and thereby reducing fuel consumption. The primary goal of this unconventional procedure is to precisely determine the standard weight of passengers and averages. This, in turn, aids in accurately calculating the distribution of weight on the aircraft, resulting in fuel savings. [...] The ultimate objective is to ensure that each flight adheres to strict parameters set by the maximum take-off weight of the aircraft, thereby enhancing safety. However, for many, this emphasis on safety might feel like an intrusion into their privacy.
I didn't know that this was a factor that they needed to consider. The privacy aspect is real, and we need regulations on storage and deletion of this data after each flight. I can already see this info being sold to advertisers.
On the discomfort side, couldn't they have the collection and recording happen in the background? If no other passengers or staff can see the numbers, there's less of a chance of someone feeling uncomfortable with the process.
This is all assuming that this is actually necessary or helpful.
On the discomfort side, couldn’t they have the collection and recording happen in the background? If no other passengers or staff can see the numbers, there’s less of a chance of someone feeling uncomfortable with the process.
The weighing process involves humans, so that wouldn't be possible.
Their average intelligence being what it is, when instructed to have one person on the scale, sometimes it's one, sometimes two, sometimes two and a stroller. Sometimes somehow a horse ends up on the scale and no one really understands how, including that horse.
Unless you check the weight, you don't know what exactly was weighed.
i mean, if theres a plate on the floor and soneone checks theres only one person on it before a button is pressed that solves that and theres no reason to display the number. Flash up an error to retry if its more than 3 sigma away from the expected mean.
They're not weighing every passenger forever. They just want to get reliable stats on the average per passenger.
The article states that the information will be kept private.
I mean they do need to balance the plane so it makes sense, another thing they could do is eliminate first class seats and spread the seating out a little more so they can relocate passengers easier.
This isn't new in the airline world.
I believe there is a Tongan airline that has been doing it for a few years already
That is so racist against Americans, lol
This doesn't sound like they're charging extra if you're over a certain weight, which is what a lot of people here seem to be assuming. Its data collection for future designs.
People are aware that you get charged for overweight baggage for health and safety reasons, right? Anything over about 20 kilos is too heavy for a single person to safely handle so they have to get two people to do it, which costs more time and money. I would be very genuinely surprised if a few dozen more kilos from overweight baggage and people would be enough to seriously impact a plane's flight unless you're on a small town hopper
I'm not ok with it but I think airlines should make bigger seats available. make it an option to book these chairs , no weighting needed, but I rather pay for a bigger seat than book 2 seats and the 2 seats not honoured when boarding the plane.
The reason for the weight check is to balance out the plane to save kerosene.
You mean like economy+, business or first class seats? Those already exist
It's a slippery slope. Soon they'll have two separate queues, and one of them will be called "fatties".
