I'm pretty left, yada yada whatever, y'all seem to know things I wanna know. Curious where you get your info and such and so on. Idk show me stuff, I wanna depropagandize myself.
Do you like youtube videos or do you prefer to read? There's some good stuff for both formats, just good to know what you find more receptive for yourself.
I love to read but YouTube videos are great too. Realistically I'm probably more receptive to YouTube videos because they are easier to digest but I'm also instinctively more suspicious of them for some reason
What is your current general sense of actually existing socialist countries (current or historical)? This might be a good place to get a better understanding of some concepts.
Also take a look over here for some of the basics topics if you need to gauge your political development: https://hexbear.net/c/librehab
Generally speaking I think I view china negatively but that's probably because I live in America and honestly don't know much about it. Sinophobia etc etc. But honestly until recently the only other socialist country I even knew existed was Vietnam.
I think more authoritarian governments just make me a bit nervous.
Comrade, you need to get on board with the Cuba pill. Listen to Blowback Season 2 and embrace the
I'll just say that Blowback, in general, is great for the Imperialist brainworms. While season 1 is Iraq, which most people "know", the following seasons are really incredible in developing some of the insanity that has engaged in over the 20th c.
I think more authoritarian governments just make me a bit nervous.
This a juicy target for deprogramming your propaganda. That phrase is kind of a vague disparagement that doesn't hold much meaning once you become aware of the intrinsic violence (and authority to use violence) that is common in the 'developed world'. The big shift is to reconsider your understanding of freedom and liberty of people. Just the fact that the USA has by far the largest prison population (nevermind the extreme per capita metric) really demolishes this concept as framed by pro-capitalist propaganda.
Just keep asking questions, and we'll do our best to set you on a path to better awareness of material conditions.
What do you want to learn about? I'm sure people here can give you some good recommendations on specific topics. If you don't really know, Parenti is a good place to start. Blackshirts and Reds, and Inventing Reality are good. (lol, I see someone has already recommended while I was writing this)
Posters in the newsmega have been putting together a general reading list on geopolitics, you can see what's been added so far here: https://hexbear.net/comment/3934711 Its quite short right now though. There is good discussion on recent events here: https://hexbear.net/post/571250, there is a new one each week. Subscribe to !news@hexbear.net if you haven't.
Yeah I'm not entirely certain on what exactly I am looking to learn about. I've just been seeing a lot of post here that I instinctively disagree with but upon further thought realize I don't actually have any evidence other than that it's generally what I've heard other people say. Yet the people here seem so certainly they are right that I atleast have to look into it. I'm specifically talking about big claims like genocide denial. For example I have been told that Mao Zedong is responsible for like 40-80mil deaths yet people here claim he isn't and seeing how that is quite a substantial claim I should atleast take it seriously and look into it yk?
I don't want to just be some reactionary parroting talking points I've never actually validated
The black book of communism where everyone gets the "communism killed 100 million" from, you should know it counts nazis among those victims of communism AND the soviets who were fighting against those nazis AND both sides' theoretical children that weren't born. It's an absolute joke and like half of its authors have disavowed it.
You'd likely enjoy Inventing Reality. Its a good starting point.
Feel free to make another post asking specific questions, as people here are good for providing sources, etc.. I don't have the time right now. You can also search hexbear for things like "Mao" etc., though you may need to do it from www.hexbear.net as older posts may not be synced to your instance. There have been a lot of effort posts, reading lists, etc.. posted over the years. No one here "denies genocide" though.
“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”
The people who come up with the Mao gazillion deaths stuff for some reason don't have any numbers on the greatest genocides in history such as the British Crown slaughtering Indians, or the US almost completely wiping out the Native American population. China's life expectancy almost doubled during Mao's time, if he was slaughtering people at the rate they claim this would not be possible.