Microsoft releases a new Windows app called Windows App for running Windows apps
Microsoft releases a new Windows app called Windows App for running Windows apps
Windows App replaces Microsoft Remote Desktop on macOS, iOS, and Android.
Lol, they're just renaming Remote Desktop to Windows.
So I can use Windows to connect to Windows, and run my Windows.
Truly a moment of marketing brilliance.
They love to do this. 2 years ago they renamed Office (the online, browser based version) to Microsoft 365 https://www.computerworld.com/article/1614302/office-to-be-rebranded-microsoft-365.html
They can present the "new" apps to shareholders
If you think this is bad, then you haven't tried navigating the MS academic offerings. Over the last 10 or so years, I think it's been called "dreamspark", "imagine", "MSDN Academic Alliance" (I liked this one, it actually made sense), "MSDN AA", and now "Azure Dev Tools for Teaching" or "adt4t" when talking with support.
rant mode ON
Everytime the name is changed, it seems something else changes (OK it's a new product) and the way to access installers and activate it differs. I just want to teach, but every couple of years I have to spend days trying to figure out how to get my iso's and how to renew the subscription. A couple of years ago, and mind you this was after I had had an active academic relationship with Microsoft for 8 years, and my predecessor even longer than that before me, we had to submit invoices proving that the school owned the domainname for our emails and website, as well as a letter from the ministry of education that we were licensed to teach this course.
The support staff is very professional and helpful, and we've always been able to resolve renewal issues. But each year we have to go through the process of getting through a maze of support pages linking to chatbots, to find the correct form to contact support. I think the link to support form had the text "Beware of the leopard".
They didn't rename just the in-browser version, they renamed "Office.com, the Office mobile app, and the Office app for Windows"
At least they didn't cancel it and make two new programs that each do 70% of what it did. Looking at you, Google.
I currently open a window on my Windows to run a Linux
And it runs in windows too!
Only it comes standard with the multiyear bugs only just patched in remote desktop for windows, like an inability to remember where you monitors have always been.
It's as confusing as those adware and spyware ridden one-purpose tools from no-name Chinese developers.
I use RDP app today to log on to my Pc remotely by using vpn to my home network. It looks like they are adding bloat for services that I have zero interest in. Or maybe they are adding authentication services so the vpn wouldn't be necessary.
yo dawg
Yo dawg, I heard you like Windows, so we put Windows in your Windows so you can use Windows while you use Windows
The only possible way Microsoft can be this bad at naming things is if they are actively doing it on purpose.
How can they expect regular people to remember what the Windows app does? It would seriously be better to pick a word at random than to overload the meaning of "Windows" again.
Here are some way better names right off the top of my head:
- Kablam!
- Telefenestra
- Portle
- Microsoft micro/do
Kablam!
That's a cartoon. Kablam!
Marklar!
I'm just here for the yo dawg memes.
And I thought developers were bad at naming.
The Microsoft school of naming things is really showing their ways
Developers are usually not bad at naming. Marketing on the other hand...
For more, check out my blog devsArentBadAtNamingThings.blogspot.tar.7z.com
AbstractAppEngineFactoryFacade would have been much better
MSN Live! Windows App Professional for Business NT
Is that kind of like how I talk to my team on the team's app and send files and messages to them in the team in the teams app?
They seriously need a new marketing group.
It's like how they made the Xbox, then the Xbox one, then the Xbox one X, then the Xbox series X. (Yeah there were other options between/simultaneous, but this sequence is a nice clean illustration.)
Teams in Teams is the naming I hate the most. Should have called them communities to match Viva Engage (Yammer) or just groups.
what the hell microsoft
They literally ran out of ideas, like, 20 years ago?
They've just been trying to say random-ass shit to justify their marketing budget since then.
Windows basically stopped around 7 and mostly went backwards, and when is the last time you thought about the version of office you use? Do you even use office, or can you get by with google docs?
OneDrive is by far more of a pain in the ass than anything else, nobody ever WANTS to use it, they mostly get hijacked by it early on and try to ignore it like a masturbating hobo on a subway car.
Classic Microsoft, muddying the waters of something that was clearly defined in its role and name
Very Aladeen of them!
These guys survive just from the license dependency of corporations
Their only product is that more programs run in windowd and people love the interface even though they keep fucking with it.
I strongly dislike Windows - the only Windows device on my network is my wife's work computer. However, my favorite desktop interface is the one Windows had in XP and 10. I even use Cinnamon because it's the most similar experience (and shares a lot of the same key shortcuts I learned as a kid).
The Android version of the app still has the zoom/cursor offset bug when using a software keyboard from when they sunset RDP 8. That has been a severe usability bug for over three years now.
This will be really easy to google for.
/s
Upvoted for title.
- Xzibit enters the chat *
In the future, all Windows apps will be part of Windows App.
This sounds like an Onion article headline
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Did they just reinvent Norton PC Anywhere?
Will it serve me ads or do I need to find those myself?
This is not confusing. AT ALL!
The irony is that I do, in fact, like mudkips.
They've come full circle jerk.
Much more interesting is the part about Relayed RDP Shortpath. With STUN and TURN and even a relay it sounds like this will enable some usecases similar to TeamViewer
It's confusing. Thought it was something sandboxed.
Can't believe they don't have proofreaders at ars technicha. Reading is fundamental 😘
It's not a Windows app, it's an app for macOS, IOS, and Android.
If you would read the article you would know that the title is perfectly correct, as currently it's only available to Win, other platforms are just planned.
It's an RDP client you can connect to pcs on the network or vms on azure
so, old Wine in a new bottle?
No it's an RDP (Remote desktop) client
Hopefully with no bugs.
I hope they’ve made it easier
Kamoulox
Do they have some new techbro CEO?
Gold medal of tautology. At this point, people still using windows voluntarily don't deserve any better. And IT departments having a choice but forcing windows on users deserve to be burned at the stake.
Fuck right off with this elitist "they deserve it" shit
Do I sense some inner tensions due to frustration with using Microsoft's sorry excuse for an OS?
Ah yes, the always shitty, "I know everything because I am that business and person all the time and better than them." Shit fucking comment.
At this point people who are like, "just use Linux" sound like, "just buy an iPhone." The only difference is the Linux people don't end up actually knowing shit about enterprise environments
I will get down voted because Lemmy is an Echo Chamber with people circle jerking their self justified opinions.
But seriously fuck off, dude. Anyone that literally says this doesn't know shit about an actual environment.
Let me know when fucking Oracle's shitty products work better on Linux boxes over Windows when their own fucking Linux products don't work. I will go to the business I am a part of right now and let them know we should just hire you to make all of our financial and enterprise setup choices because you said so.
And IT departments having a choice but forcing windows on users deserve to be burned at the stake.
Not a small thing to rip all the wires out of the walls. Moving to an entirely new office-wide OS is a heavy lift.
But they don't have to make any OS "office-wide". All they have to do is
- move from a centralized micro-management of every workstation to a scenario where users can be provided a prepared workstation, but may configure one themselves
- transition to a security policy that assumes every single workstation is insecure, and regulate the network traffic to allow only those protocols that are required for the business, protecting each machine from the next (this would prevent so many major security incidents where a single machine gets compromised and then the whole network is affected)
- provide central infrastructure as open protocols - IMAP (or POP3/SMTP), HTTPS, FTPS + file & printer sharing as desired
- enforce open formats within the enterprise
If necessary (assuming you have really irresponsible users), before authorizing users to set up their own machine, they can do a qualification check - or have the user's line manager approve the "individual setup".
This would enable power users productivity and even if you don't change anything for the vast amount of users, it would pay off rapidly. If you can move regular workstations away from the bloatware that is Windows, you would boost the overall productivity immensely.
Specifically, what I am arguing against is:
- locking users into an eco-system for any kind of service (e.g. MS Exchange servers, MS Active Directory)
- outsourcing your IT competences to Microsoft (because let's be real, that's the actual reason IT departments go for Microsoft: corporate IT is outsourced as a service, this means lowest bidder, and the lowest bidder will happily take Microsoft's offer to take care of any "real" issues and only provide a really, really dumb and helpless first level support)
- having tons of services listening on every workstation that no one ever needs (just open your windows control panel (while it's still around) and check out all the running services, of which you could disable > 50% if Windows would let you, without impacting the operational state of your machine) and each one presenting a vulnerable interface to the network
