Just stumbled across this...
Names blurred to protect the innocent / crazy. Not trying to call anyone out, just thought the response was hilarious and highly disproportionate. Like, they distinguished that comment (green border/background).
For reference, the comment I presume that was downvoted that apparently triggered that response was to the tune of "BoTH SiDEz!!!!" with some hyper generalizing / stereotyping on the side.
Maybe they downvote without commenting because they get banned when they comment?
Idk the instance, but it's pretty funny calling down voting undemocratic when it's the only means of voting on comments and you effective rigged that election lol
Its their instance, their rules. Instances should always place their users before guests.
I agree. I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed to enforce their own rules. I just said their justification of those rules was stupid. They're allowed to be stupid, it's their instance
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I am of the firm belief after much deliberation and consideration that it actually is awesome that downvotes are public and it makes for a much more responsible voting environment overall. To suffer the problems of bots and agitators is not preferable to this small but meaningful way of encouraging highlighting the opinions of actual human beings more democratically
I'm in that minority too.
Votes impact visibility of content.
Obviously, we should try to move from the up/down system to a more granular one, but for now it seems fair to call out people who abuse the system by systematically downvoting content they disagree with.
If you don't like a community, just block it and move on. If a comment or post breaks the rules, report it.
When you wrestle a pig, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it. Some people aren't worth arguing with. Down voting because a comment adds nothing to the discussion also often gets mistaken for down voting because you disagree, especially if the person being down voted is a troll just looking for ANY response to feed their need to fight.
Really, how dare we downvote someone on their own server? It's silencing and undemocratic and they have no real arguments and are all American puppets anyway.
This user and those who agree with them are the only reasonable people. In fact, agreeing with them is the only way to be reasonable. \s
ITT:
"Downvotes are spam! (12)"
"I think it's a little more nuanced than that (-7)"
I'd love to know, as this individual's instance is one I'd love to block, I don't want to run into them in the wilds of Lemmy if it could be helped. They've got to have a lot of weird takes that I simply don't want to see.
You would be doing yourself and the instance a favour.
Just got banned for calling out a troll
Does your post have anything to do with this: https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/353815
You can't block an instance, can you? (I mean as a user, not an instance owner.) Except by blocking all communities on said instance, of course.
Edit: Ah. I see it now. In Lemmy-UI, under settings, hit the "blocks" tab and scroll down. Thanks, folks.
You can, at least partially.
If your instance is on 0.19.0 or above, you can block instances at the user level. You won't see posts from any community there, but you will see posts from users there to communities on other instances, and you will still see comments from users on that instance.
It basically works as a "block all communities from this instance".
You can. I have a couple instances blocked, like that yiff one and the porn one.
No need to block, I know exactly who that is.
A hypocritical coward.
Nah the guy in the post is a brave man standing up for the victims of speciesism and colonialism.
I do think it's unfortunate that votes aren't public to non-instance-owners. That'd be a nice thing to change. I might see if I can find any existing tickets on the topic or whatever.
(Sorry, I know it's weird to make two top-level comments on the same post, but this one's sufficiently unrelated to my other one, I figured it made sense.)
What do you mean votes aren't public? I see the up vote / down vote on this comment in fact.
Everyone can see the count of both upvotes and downvotes. But instance owners can also see the usernames of who upvoted and who downvoted a given post/comment. (Probably also the list of all posts/comments a given user has upvoted/downvoted, I think?) And not just users on the same instance. Users from other instances too.
I think I've heard that the usernames of users who upvoted/downvoted things are also public info on Kbin. (Not just to instance owners, but also to regular users.)
Mods can to from the back-end but the front-end hasn't caught up yet with the feature: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4392
Good to know. Looks like that backend change is in Lemmy version 0.19.4 and newer (which is why it didn't work with a {"error":"not_an_admin"} when I ran a test on Lemmy.World which is still on 0.19.3 using a post in a community I'm a mod of). Thanks for pointing me to that PR.
Which instance? Just want to know so I can avoid it.
You can search for the text if you want (which should find it for you), but I'm not here to out anyone. I just thought the crazy-ass response was hilarious and worthy of a post here.
I just thought the crazy-ass response was hilarious and worthy of a post here.
Not sure their reaction deserves such derogatory terms.
I post in a few non-English communities. There was a time when posts would instantly get downvoted, most probably because people didn't speak the language and did not know how to configure it in their settings. As a consequence, the content would usually get buried, when not completely vanish from the feeds (there was a bug at the time that wouldn't show any post with 0 votes)
I can imagine what it would feel like if I were to have "controversial" stances, and where people would systematically downvote by content. That's borderline harassment, and can frustrate quite fast.
As I said in another comment: if you don't like a community, block it and move on. As long as content is not illegal or breaks any regulations, just let the people be. What is the point of purposely go to a community you have nothing to do with just to downvote stuff?
I can understand the reaction of the OP here.
On top of that, as Lemmy is so small that they got instantly identified, that makes things even worse.
How do you search text across instances
The instance could use less meat eaters arguing for their immoral lifestyle.
This is unprofessional admin behaviour. No one is crazy, it’s ableist to claim anyone is such.
If you don’t like it then don’t participate on the instance
If they don't like it they should defederate. Make it into a proper hugbox
Stop asking for defederations people.
That function is for wildly inappropriate or illegal content, not a random community you are not the target group of. Block communities you dont care for yourself, or even the whole instance. That way you can still interact with their users / read posts and comments outside the instance.
The fediverse should not be fractured needlessly.
Talk about reddit brained. Why do downvotes matter to so many people? There is no karma count except for individual comments. You don't know what someone downvotes for so why get worked up over it?
If you don’t like downvotes (like me!) join an instance with disabled downvotes. Simple solution. I don’t know why OOP hasn’t disabled downvotes on their instance.
If someone indicates they dislike a narcissist's content it shatters their ego.
Just because you call someone something doesn’t mean that it is true.
The instance can also disable downvotes. It won't block a remote instance from downvoting, but those downvotes won't be federated and will only be seen for users of the instance where the downvote happened.
Now that is an interesting idea. A timeline that ranks only by local votes
I had similar experiences in the past, I get you.
If you want it to be for vegans only then you should defederate tbh
Because it is a form of downplaying the abuse farm animal face everyday.