Biden pushes party unity as he resists calls to step aside, says he'll return to campaign next week
Biden pushes party unity as he resists calls to step aside, says he'll return to campaign next week
Democrats are about to get fucked hard, and their hubris did it to them
I mean....
You mean, like in 2016? No. Surely not. No.
We all know there is no one they could run that would make you happy.
I would vote for anyone. I would vote for Biden, but very much do not want to. If they put someone else in there who wasn't also a fascist, then I'd vote for them. The problem is that Biden is not doing very well and is being a shit by not listening to anyone around him. Democrats are fucking retarded because this should have been happening 2 or 3 fucking YEARS ago. The Democrats are incompetent pieces of shit who are also the only thing keeping this country together. They need to behave like they actually know how to govern.
Biden himself literally said at least 50 democrats would win against Trump.
That's correct, the party as a whole do not represent the working class. I would speculate most democrat voters agree but feel trapped in the 2 party system and would never vocally discuss their dissatisfaction for fear of being ostracized by their peers.
Case in point, the other reply to yours
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Kind of a rock / hard place situation.
If they "force" him out without him dropping out, by faithless delegates or somesuch, it would reveal the entire process of selecting candidates is actually a meaningless farce (which everyone already kinda knew, but no one seems very interested in dispelling that myth just yet).
If he won't consensually drop out within the next week I don't see how they get rid of him without it being an even bigger clusterfuck.
It's already a clusterfuck. The only question left being how long it'll take to play out
Alright this is getting fucking ridiculous. If he won't exit with dignity then just 25th amendment his ass.
The Dems don't want him to exit. They have the means and they know how to use it, so wanting to force him on us has to mean that it's what the party apparatus wants, which is really just what their rich and corporate donors want
What if the party unites to oust him?
They'd need to be in the same page for his replacement, or it'd be a shit show. A failed attempt would also look awful
Also, I think Biden might be doing a good job at "party unity" - in that, a lot of the party seems to be united in him not being the 2024 candidate.
Like the DNC saying it to anyone left of Reagan, Biden doesn't want unity. He wants obedience.
I’d also like to add that no matter the person’s intent - power messes with people of all ages. There are so many people in government and the private sector that died in their appointed or elected seats.
Term limits are so very important to make our collective world better.
Well this post aged poorly
It sure did. And we usually have to wait a little longer before we get to say that, too.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
As more Democratic members of Congress urged him to drop out — bringing the total since his disastrous debate against Trump to nearly three dozen — Biden remained isolated at his beach house in Delaware after being diagnosed with COVID-19.
“By passing the torch, he would secure his legacy as one of our nation’s greatest leaders and allow us to unite behind a candidate who can best defeat Donald Trump and safeguard the future of our democracy,” said Heinrich, who’s up for reelection.
Separately, Rep. Sean Casten of Illinois wrote in an op-ed that with “a heavy heart and much personal reflection” he, too, was calling on Biden to “pass the torch to a new generation.”
Biden, 81, tested positive for COVID-19 while traveling in Las Vegas earlier this week and experienced “mild symptoms” including “general malaise” from the infection, the White House said.
But among Democrats nationwide, nearly two-thirds say Biden should step aside and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to an AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll.
Associated Press writers Joey Cappelletti in Lansing, Michigan, Ellen Knickmeyer in Aspen, Colorado, Steve Peoples in Milwaukee, and Josh Boak, Will Weissert, Mary Clare Jalonick, Seung Min Kim and Stephen Groves in Washington contributed to this report.
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My tinfoil hat conspiracy is that because Biden has shown a willingness to go after corporate interests, the money people want him gone. Hence the smear campaign.
Biden may be old, but he's at least wise enough to surround himself with competent people. We can (and should) do better, but more turmoil and uncertainty is just going to drive us into the clutches of fascism.
Is it really fair to call it a smear campaign? It's all out there in the open, we can ask pull up footage or transcripts any of his speeches. It's not like we're all just taking the media's word for it on the man's rapidly declining capacity to remain president.
It's a smear campaign when compared to Trump's behavior. On one hand, we have an old guy with a stutter who (at the very least) is still wise enough to surround himself with competent people. He may forget some things, but if you examine his record these past four years, he has wildly exceeded my very low expectations and demonstrated why he managed to make it to the Presidency.
On the other hand, you have another old guy who cannot open his mouth without telling bald-faced lies and whose mental state is rapidly deteriorating. Not to mention the crimes he's committed. And yet, despite all this, the media is talking about how Biden is old and needs to drop out of the race, and not Trump.
Now, why do you think that is?
So... Now what...
Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and 2/3rds if Democrats want him out but he's refusing like an old man whose grown children are trying to take away the car keys before he hurts someone.
Unlike those grown children, Democrats don't hold the same love and care for grandpa to force them to grow a pair of balls to know that it's in everyone's best interest and force the issue to pass.
"Most important election in my life" my ass; all that they have to do is stop helping a genocide and they would win, but no.
Nothing else at stake here other then his election apparently. Can't help but think about that press release where he blurted out "how do I make this not sound self-centered" before answering why he was wasn't stepping down. Ouf.
I think at this point it's because the DNC is going to shove him down our throats anyway with their expedited digital vote next Friday so instead of causing even more disruption by throwing a wrench into that at the absolute last minute which will cause bad optics for Democrats, they're just resigned to losing entirely.
"Funny" thing is people keep saying "the rich are safe so they don't care if we lose to a fascist." and they couldn't be more wrong. I don't for one second think Trump isn't going after the DNC as well as the party itself.
i think that we're on track to repeat history and the last time this happened the rich either fled or switched to facism to protect their wealth.
Bribery is legal now so the rich think they'll just bribe it away.
You were doing okay until the genocide thing. I doubt the "genocide" even enters into it for most independent voters.
I think it's foolish to chase "independent" voters (which I assume you're saying to mean the mythical "moderate"). What Biden is fighting is apathy.
Joe Biden being unwilling to call out the genocide in Palestine absolutely drives apathy among voters who feel disenfranchised by the current two party system.
If the Democrats truly cared about winning elections, they'd court the left and drive voter engagement. If we drive up turnout, the Democrats win every time, even with the ridiculously broken electoral college.
This is a public statement. Privately, he’s been saying much different things
is there a place i can go read up on it?
Wow. So the user that does the lion's share of the posting on news/politics on lemmy.world (from what I've observed) states his confound knowledge of the private conversations of POTUS. The very same lemmy.world that has an overwhelming amount of posted coverage of democrats urging Joe Biden to step down, to an arguably oppressive degree. Without a replacement even considered aside from VP Harris. Four months before a presidential election. With the known American attention span. Smells awful.
For the love of all that is holy, vote blue in November to avoid immediate Fascism and CONTINUE to press for our rights and dignity as human beings!
Tell me the plan that gets more unified support than the current president.
Anything other than the current president.
no one knows the right answer but we all know what the wrong answers are because we keep doing them and here we are.
They don’t have one and even if they did Biden is the best chance of winning.