France Is Headed Towards Its Most Feral Right-Wing Regime Since the Nazis

There is one and only one way to deal with Nazis

- Carnegie Hall here we come

I archived this cancerous bloated paywalled shit show of a website just on principle

Why is so much of the internet terrible now fml
- Cory Doctorow can explain it to you. He coined a term for it which has now become widespread, "enshittification." And it's all about money.
  https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys
- Because no one wants to pay for anything.
- [Deep breath in.........]
  Wealthy men that are perpetually insecure in life because their fathers didn't show them any outward affection when they were children are blindly and joylessly driven to increase a bank balance that they couldn't meaningfully decrease in a thousand lifetimes in the hope that it will make their fathers ghosts smile and pat them on the head (ghosts who don't even put out the effort to haunt their children anyways)
  I'm dizzy, what just happened?
- When's the last time you donated to Lemmy.world?
- I asked chatgpt & it said this: " The internet can feel overwhelming or negative at times due to various factors like misinformation, toxicity in online communities, and the sheer volume of content. It's important to curate your online experience by choosing reliable sources and engaging in positive communities that align with your interests and values. Taking breaks from the internet or limiting exposure to certain types of content can also help maintain a healthier online experience. Don't share sensitive info. Chats may be reviewed and used to train our models. Learn more ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info. " I think that a better answer might have something to do with commercial interests.

Ah yes, right-wing authoritarianism that helped cause mass immigration from regional instability thanks to ignoring climate change and sowing global conflicts... Let's just give the fox the keys to the henhouse.

It's foxes all the way down. Just a question whether Russians or Americans get their slice.

Thanks to social media, youth unemployment, an uptick in asylum seekers, ballooning energy prices and oodles of nationalist right-wing cash, Macron is no longer the only politician with the regal ability to play Jupiter on TV. There are now a record 4,005 candidates running in the first round, with many fabled divinities to choose from.

There's your problem. Defund the rich.

That’s the problem. When the tech bros have more money than a king, who’s to stop them?
It's also the fault of neoliberal governments around the world for actively looking down on middle class people for not caring as much about the climate, refugees and other matters that you can care about when you actually have enough money to have the time to care about those things.

...the French, in principle, rarely distinguish between fact and impression.

The author comes out swinging and still manages to bore quickly.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm sure that you can find media here in the US that is going to provide useful political coverage of France, but I don't think that this article is gonna be it.
kagis for Le Monde English
Hmm.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2024/06/29/french-elections-who-would-don-quixote-vote-for-today_6676135_23.html
French elections: Who would Don Quixote vote for today?
Ugh. This is not really what I was hoping for.
checks the BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q0rv05p19o
French PM in final appeal to stop far-right victory
That's better.
- French is not one of my languages so thank you for doing the due diligence
  Sláinte

We still have hope this week end for the Nouveau Front Populaire, the left wing alliance. There might still be a chance

The author showed his bias when he wrote
Indeed, the polls indicate Le Pen’s awkward and aggrieved racist coalition—along with the inventively loony left-wing anti-Israel alliance dubbed the New Popular Front—is positioned to form a government that could defenestrate Macron’s Ensemble! coalition in the 2027 presidential election.
- What a shitty article
- along with the inventively loony left-wing anti-Israel alliance dubbed the New Popular Front
  I thought we were the Popular Front?
Whatever the result, what cause the rise of far right will be still there. We have to continue to mobilize after the election this time. Organized for your interest fellows
- The rise... Of the far left??????

What's (not) funny is that the French far right is just slightly to the left of the US Republicans.

Well, populist proto fachos so...

I feel sorry for migrants in general, they are their primary target

I think a quick look overseas will show you it's migrants, the queer community, women, and to a certain extent any intellectual. Now where have I seen this before.
For now...

The French political system, casually referred to as the “Republic of Friends,”

Where does the author get this? I'm French and have never heard of our system called as such - especially not by a French person.

A search returns this article alone. Bizarre. Is he trying to make this happen??
- ChatGPT had a fever dream again

How is it France falling to this? Don't they riot every other month about government bullshit?

We went to the streets for months against the new retirement system and they've beaten the shit ouf of us. We couldn't make us heard by a so called democratic and moderate government. Not a big surprise that a lot of people are trying another way. No excuse for them to be fascists assholes. But Macron is carrying an heavy responsibility for the current situation.
- Ok so forgive my ignorance but if they're trying to overturn government decisions that are a burden on everyone, why are they fascist?
Yeah but s lot of those are self serving right wing ideals, for some reason everyone ignored this and just assumed the old revolution was ongoing. I guess like people who still talk about Russia as communist
- Ooohh. Yeah that's stuff I couldn't have had a clue about.

I hope they really don't like the ruzzians. That way, when the time comes, they can be properly utilized and disposed of...."guys why are there so many seeds in our uniforms? I don't get it".....

authoritarians grow stronger every day. God help us all

If people rely on their imaginary friend, we're so fucked...
- It’s a figure of speech. No need to get your knickers in a twist.

What are the reasons for this? I'm out of the france loop

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- All of the western democracies are telling their people the reason their quality of life is declining is due to immigrants and the disabled and poor. A lot of people seem to believe them. I agree its about inequality and bringing the far right in will only accelerate the process.
- Right, I see your point. I also wonder sometimes if the excess of social media consumption and the battle to gobble more eye balls has somehow influenced people making them more susceptible to manipulation via charisma and populist opinions, I'm not sure how different it is nowadays than a couple of decades back. I might be wrong about this anyways
Macron made an irresponsible gamble, at the worst possible timing, without taking in account his current lack of popularity. To no one surprise it blown up in his face.
- Wait, which gamble? I'm not well informed on what's going on over there

According to the BBC

Alongside policies for giving French citizens “national preference” for jobs and housing, they want to cut VAT on energy and allow under-30s to escape income tax.

existing promises on immigration, crime and insecurity as well as tax cuts to tackle the cost-of-living crisis.

plans to abolish droit du sol, the right to automatic French citizenship for children born to foreign parents

Sounds like some good policies no wonder they are getting loads of votes. The reduction in taxes always comes back to bite you and that's probably a mistake but the lower tax for the youth allowing them to get started in life instead of being in debt is a great idea. I haven't heard anyone have such a progressive idea.

It’s called populism for a reason. Trump ran on a populist platform in 2016. Populism can be Democratic or authoritarian, meaning it can be genuine concern about capitalism and the imbalance between the ownership class and the working class or it can be the sugar coating on a bitter, authoritarian pill—or, in other words, a fuckin lie.
- Yea. You hope that the more centrist parties look at what the population are desperate for and will do anything for. And then you hope democracy works and people get to vote for that they believe is right. Hopefully that happens in conjunction with sane and stable leaders listen to the demands of the people.
  Currently large amount of the people feel ignored or certain issues and feel only the fair right is listening to them. If they had anyone else to vote for I'm sure they would.
Most young people do not pay income taxes currently, only the wealthy ones. So this reduction would only apply to already rich people.
- Tax in francs starts at €10,778.
  You think anyone under 30 that earns more than €10,778 is rich. Come on.
Poland went through such populist policies and their only outcome was massive inflation
- Poland's a great country. I went there and loved it way more than I thought I would. Lovely people, lovely culture, lovely country. Wages going up every year. They seem on a good path.
Debt? What debt are you talking about? You know how taxes work?
- Young people are more likely to go into debt at the start of their lives. Whether it be for things like rent, buying a car, buying a house, education.
  If taxes are lower they can either have more savings or pay of debt faster.
  Come on it's not that hard to realise more take home means you have more money. Christ this website is so financially illiterate.
Unfortunately that's exactly what Nationalism Socialism was all about. Great socialist policies to support and bolster the in crowd. Unfortunately those policies aren't extended to the out crowd. And the out crowd is pretty easily defined when you've got "Nationalism" in your political party's name.
None of that is good.
- I think helping everyday working class people is a good thing. That's what they want.
  Sure if you want to help businesses fuck the common people. Keep wages low and prices high and keep the upper class rich.
  Most people don't think like that though.
Where do you target your fear mongering if you don’t share a border with scary brown people? Where do you build a wall?
- It's called a Maginot Line and you build it on the German border
- You don't need a wall. Just don't let people in.
  It's not fear mongering if it is already happened and people can see first hand the impacts. That's why people vote the way they do they see the reality of the situation and the current parties are telling them things that are lies.
Wow cherry picking 101, bravo 👏.
- They are their policies. People vote for policies. Um that's how politics works.
  Those policies seem to me something that would attract people. They currently have the largest amount of votes. So if people are voting for the parties policies what are they voting on? Their favourite party colour?

Amazing take. Back in the 1920's you would have looked at the rise of the NSDAP in Germany and gone "not surprised given the jews there"

If you cant handle a democratic election not going your way, maybe you dont belong in politics.

And maybe you shouldve curbed immigration instead of making it a wedge issue, and only having the far right party be for curbing it. Just a thought

Whipping up fear about brown immigrants is what the right does when there is no wedge issue.
- I thought that was a Mexican border only thing, turns out European leaders do the same shitty fear monger
  I guarantee every coastie wants to rescue live folks, color doesn’t matter in the sea. It’s the politicians saying no to human lives
- Or the everyone is just ignoring the issue.
  Rhetorically because this conversation is going to go nowhere. What would need to happen for immigration to actually be an issue?
  Because people that tell us low wages (not GDP increase but working class wages for locals), high house prices, and other things people mention like losing culture and crime increasing isn't an issue. So what would it take for it to be an issue.
  A lot of people, usually the rich that own businesses and land and can make money off immigration, say it's not a problem. I think rather than choosing a side and ignoring the issues people should wonder what would be a bad outcome then looking at things after.
- Pretty easy to do after 9/11, Nice, Vienna(2021), Dresden(2021), the list goes on. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe
  When multiple groups have declared Jihad against the west, a little more caution should be exercised.
  Remember, immigrating is not a right.