Trump–Biden Debate Conspiracies Have Already Flooded the Internet

Biden looked terrible, and he sounded terrible. Trump lied about 99% of the time. Biden told us what he did for ALL Americans and there is more to come. Trump admitted he cut taxes for the wealthy and destroyed environmental regulations. As a voter, you are voting for the candidate and their administration. The choice in 2024 is, A. Things get better for our Democracy, or B. We install a dictator and voting ends forever. They are not both the same, and NOT voting, or 3rd party voting, helps the weaker candidate win.

I'm voting for the candidate that has been making life for ALL citizens better, that's the job of the President.

This run down fits with what I saw but biden was better by the end if not great. Trump did a good job though of looking better in a beauty pageant aint nobody want to be a contestant in.
- Great, no. Better, undoubtedly.
Things won't get better under Biden though. Strongest argument neoliberals might be able to make is that fascism will arrive slightly slower under their guy.
But seeing how Biden is fumbling it's very likely he's going to lose this. He needs to step down. If it's about the party or the administration then he needs to realize that. If he stays in he is responsible for a Trump win.
- Things have gotten better under his first term so I don't see why it would not. At least for things the president could effect. As far as facism it has not improved in terms of rectifying citizens united but not getting better is a whole lot better than getting way worse.
- OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES JESUS CHRIST
- Oh look, the same clown in the same circus. Just come out and say you want Trump to win. All this blabbing you do on every single Biden thread trying to come across as “for the good of the party”. Totally disingenuous.
  People like you will be responsible for Trump.
- Biden (and his ego) is responsible for the inevitable loss in November, but they will surely blame leftists for not voting hard enough. It’s utterly deranged they expect a candidate such as this to pass muster, but here we are. Biden admin couldn’t even pass voting rights act, after Jan 6 and attempted coups with fake electors plot happened. The incompetency at governing is truly astounding, and this is why I’ll also blame Biden for the slide into fascism.
Things won't get better for Gaza.
- Exactly. They won't get better either way. But at least they won't get even worse. Wouldn't you want that ?
- Let’s burn everything down then. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing up this complex situation for us.
- You'd think, based on your username, you would be against what Trump stands for, seeing as he's clearly worse for Gaza too.
  I can no longer tell if you're a provocateur or an idiot, frankly.
- That's a tautology when talking about any potential American president
- if Biden loses and Trump takes office, yes I agree. Trump will help Bibi finish the job https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/us/politics/trump-israel-conservative.html
  MEANWHILE Biden has been working hard on a 3-step peace plan that includes giving up remaining hostages for ceasefire and then continued ceasefire with more conditions resulting in the end of the goddamn war.
- Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, praises ‘very valuable’ potential of Gaza’s ‘waterfront property’

It's so painful to watch Biden attempt to recall accurate information, while watching Trump effortlessly lie.

This is probably the worst Biden has ever sounded, and it was largely because he was trying to remember and repeat everything he could.
Meanwhile Trump just says whatever comes to mind.
Also, what was up with those muffled mics? You could hear it in Trump's mic too until he started getting louder.
- Before the debate they said Biden had had a cold as well.
- At one point trump was talking forever. you could see even he was not sure what else to say but he kept plugging along. I was like. isn't his time up? aren't they supposed to mute the mics?
- I didn't notice the muffled mics, but I agree with you on all accounts otherwise
- The mics were turned off when it wasn't their turn.
its easier to make stuff up than remember details that need to be accurate.
As I'm watching it, Mozart's Requiem in D minor is playing in my head.
- When Biden seemed lost at the beginning, it was the Introitus.
  When they were arguing about golf, it was the Confutatis.
  When they were both responding to how to help Americans with addiction by talking about restricting fentanyl coming into the country, it was the Dies Irae.
  The entire thing was underlined by the Lacrimosa.
  The closing statements, the Kyrie. Lord have mercy.
  Edit: (Obviously these are not in performance order.)

They set the expectations ridiculously low for Biden and are desperately trying to claw that back. When they say he can't string two sentences together, all he has to do is string two sentences together and he's shown that they're wrong about him. Such morons.

Meanwhile, I had higher expectations for Biden, and Trump's expectations are what I'm seeing.. This debate will not sway me away from voting Biden, but fuck is it hard to watch.
- I try to remember that we're voting for an entire administration and presidential appointments, an apparatus much larger than one old man. It's cold comfort, but it's something.
- Yup.
I dunno. IMO, he didn't sound terrible. He sounded like an 81 year old who probably shouldn't have been shoved into the nomination but the other frontrunner last time could have forced some representation of the left, so the DNC did it anyway. At least he made an effort to make sentences and call out lies, which the moderators should have.
I hate that our choices are a guy who should be retired vs a nazi that should be retired.
- I didn't watch it, but from what I'm reading this morning, it probably won't change anyone's mind.
- I hate that our choices are a guy who should be retired vs a nazi that should be retired.
  Very well said
- I was really dissapointed that biden did not discuss trump lowering interest rates to zero before covid when obama had gotten us to a few percent. Zero interest rates is something that is only supposed to be done when there are problems and the economy is not running right and we need a general buff. three to six are normal levels. over six is high. You will always get inflation when interest rates are kept low in an economy that does not need it. This was one reason we could not drop them when covid hit and the reason they had to be raised at breakneck speed which is something you never want to do. They should be lowered and raised very slowly at very slow levels. Idealy quarter of a point or less each time and not ever quarter.

And russian trolls do their best ... or worst right now. And chinese leaders wait and smile.

It's no conspiracy that Trump dodged almost every question.

This article was published 14.5 hours before the debate

Still voting for Biden. He maybe senile but his heart appears to be in the right place. It's all I got to work with. 🤷‍♂️

That's a very poor wording to describe someone supporting genocide.
- Honestly I don't think he even wants to support Israel's abuse of Palestine. He just knows he can't take an extreme stance against them before an election. If he does, he'll lose a lot of the Jewish and Christian vote.
- You guys have one chord and think you can record an album.
- Who should I vote for then? keep in mind, I would like for this mystery candidate to have a real chance at winning....

It was a legitimately bad performance from Biden. Every media outlet is reporting how bad it was.

Even if the overall debate wasn't that bad from him, his few moments of mumbling gibberish will overshadow everything else. Trump rightly pointed out at one point he couldn't understand anything Biden was saying to try counterpointing it.

Event happens.

Internet floods with conspiracies about Event.

News reports that there are conspiracies about Event.

Rinse and repeat. "Event" can be virtually anything of public note.

just dump them both and their first replacements in a black hole and things will potentially improve.

Yes independent party! Fuck the DNC for throwing our Bernie under the bus
- Okay sure, let's have this discussion.
  The first massive favor I'll do is give you the benefit of the doubt and accept you're saying this in good faith and not as a right-wing sock puppet.
  The next massive favor I'll do is accept your (ostensible) plan is wildly successful, far beyond what you could reasonably hope for. Everybody is so moved by your comment that you convince 80% of Democrat voters to vote independent and every single one votes for the same independent party. Hell, I'll even throw in 10% of Republican voters.
  The only thing we won't give you is the ranked choice voting needed to stop your idea being dumb as fuck. We'll stick to reality for that one.
  So tell us how the next 4 years play out in your head. Polls close, votes are counted. Democrats 9.8%, Toothfairy Party 44.1%, Republicans 45.9%.
  Then what?
- All that does is help Trump, but you know that already. Go plant sunflowers.

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So, outa curiosity…. How many cans of Mountain Dew did Biden slam back?