So, I personally didn't vote for any far-right party. And I suspect neither did a lot of the people in this community. That "collective you" seems woefully misapplied.
Is op voting for right-wingers? Else, I find the use of "you" a bit odd.
Migrants are people first, not "problems". They have rights, they have value, they have skills. As in any population, some will be an issue for society, nad you'll need to deal with that. But that has little to nothing to do with them being migrants.
And the whole "anti-democracy propaganda", as you called it, is mixed up in there too: The far right wants to take away human rights. They'll start with the weakest link, which may be migrants or disabled people or ..., and work their way up.
On the other hand more news like this might get people away from far right.
Xenophobic arguments are not "about the numbers" or rationality. They are about fear. You can deport as many people as you want, the argument will not go away, as long as there's a single migrant anywhere (and possibly beyond). Also, voters tend to be more right-wing if they don't know any migrants themselves because either there are few/no migrants where they live or they're segregated from them.
Also look at Biden or Obama — they had more people deported than any US president who came before them. Biden even instituted an "upper limit" on migration recently. Yet, they will still be attacked as "weak on migration".
The only way to win (as a society) is to integrate migrants well. And to make sure people don't need to flee their home countries.
I'd want to get rid of that thing too, there's nothing insane about that. !rationalpeoplefacebook
At the very least you'll find a suitable explorer's hat and a knife to fight the Smithsonian director if they resist.
Oh dear, this is stupid. Thanks for the background. There's always more to these weird theories than they let on in their tweets.
Looks like someone does a great job faking screenshots that stir rage. (Granted, date and byline are completely missing, both of which should be there. On the plus side, that means the fake can be used until the JPEG compression eats it up.)
Sorry for misinterpreting you. But then, you responded to a comment that was apparently serious. ¯\(ツ)/¯
No paywall for me. If there's an authwall, you can pass that by entering an invalid email address, like no@thankyou.com.
Could you cut pleasantries like "shitehole"/"knobend"/... on this community, please? I know Orban is not the most likable person, but there is no point in random incivility — it only kills the mood here.
(I respond to you but I mean the 4? other people doing the same in this thread as well.)
I am fairly sure there are pretty intelligent supporters of fast-right leaders (too). And I think there are two angles here: One is how much you let irrational fears and bad instincts take ahold of you, the other is whether you are going out for personal gain.
It was an attempt at a joke. The one version you linked to is green and kind of looks like a gherkin. That's all.
As I understand the two of you: "hybrid" has a "conventional " component, and "springtime" supposedly refers to the fact that seizing Russia in winter is hard.
If my reading of this is correct, please stop your trains of thought. You guys sound way too trigger-happy. It helps absolutely no one to turn the Russia-Ukraine war into an EU-Russia war. War just kills a ton of people, and for what, in that case?
Sensibly enough, everyone in the EU is trying to avoid getting involved in the "conventional warfare" bit and containing things to Ukraine. I am also fairly sure that right now, nobody whosoever is dumb enough to try to seize Russia.
You are just digging a bigger hole with every comment, adding more inconsequential arguments.
Your original claim was that they are an SED clone. Which is just not true. That would also not make sense, given that we live in a vastly different time than the original Cold War era.
BSW is a party that, for the moment, has way more presence in political talk shows than it does substance. They have a prominent ex-Linke face, they have ex-Linke members, but they also have nationalist and socially regressive views. Calling them left-wing is thus not particularly appropriate either.
And just like CyberEgg, I absolutely don't understand why you bring in all the arguments that don't do anything for your case. E.g: Yes, BSW is popular in Eastern Germany. But that doesn't mean they're an SED clone or left-wing. It just means that a bunch of people in Eastern Germany voted for this weird cult.
And for the record, none of that means that either CyberEgg or I like BSW.
You do realize that that "club" is a gherkin, right? :)
Fwiw, I like all the properly illustrated variants so much better than the French variant that always feels lifeless to me.
Ooh, thank you! Sorry for the way I worded it. Anyway: To me, it looks weirdly pixelated, as if either:
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It doesn't take into account high-PPI screens and scales the image file for a 96ppi screen and then the browser scales it up to display size or
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It just takes a file with huge image resolution and the browser scales it down quickly on the fly.
You can look at my screenshots.
Lieber @moistbones@lemmy.world, die Zuhausis in !ich_iel@feddit.org sind auch ein relevante Gurkentruppe. Schöne Grüße!
Oh the usual: Youth orgs of parties being a little more radical than their parent parties. Fratelli is a right-wing, self described "post-Fascist" party that, when behind closed doors, is celebrating Mussolini. Interior politics have included taking away adoption rights from LGBTQ parents,rolling back trans rights, and re-organizing state broadcasters.
Unfortunately, since Meloni is pro-Ukrainian and apparently charming, a lot of conservatives all over Europe (and in fact Biden too) have acted is if everything is A-OK.
Shit. I noticed too late that the English version is paywalled (the German translation isn't). :(
DeepL re-translation into English
After weeks of silence regarding revelations about the Fratelli d'Italia (FdI) youth group, which praised Mussolini and far-right terrorists, Senate President Ignazio La Russa condemned the acts. Pressure is mounting on Giorgia Meloni, who remains silent on the matter.
In a Facebook post, La Russa, President of the Senate and co-founder of the Fratelli d'Italia, strongly condemned all forms of racism and anti-Semitism, adding that the incidents were contrary to the party's values.
The Italian news agency Fanpage carried out investigative research into the youth wing of the Fratelli d'Italia (FdI) and published undercover footage showing the Roman salute, young people praising Mussolini and chanting fascist slogans.
La Russa's statement came after a leading representative of the Gioventù Nazionale (Nationalist Youth) made anti-Semitic remarks about the Fratelli d'Italia senator and former spokesperson for Rome's Jewish community, Ester Mieli, in front of a hidden camera in the second part of the report.
"My sincere and warm-hearted solidarity goes to the senator and friend Ester Mieli, who has been the victim of unacceptable statements by some members of the Gioventù Nazionale," he wrote. FdI changes position within a few hours
On Wednesday, Giovanni Donzelli, the head of the FdI organization, also changed his tone.
In the afternoon, he initially declared that he did not believe "the one-sided research of the radical left-wing press". The attempt to portray the Fratelli d'Italia as an extremist and nostalgic movement was pathetic, Donzelli said.
But in the evening, after the publication of the second part of the investigation, there was a U-turn and disciplinary measures were even announced.
"We repeat: There is no place for racists, extremists and anti-Semites at Fratelli d'Italia. The statements heard in the videos published today, regardless of the way they were recorded and published, are unacceptable and incompatible with the values of our political movement [...] Fratelli d'Italia will act with great determination against those responsible". Meloni and public broadcaster in the spotlight
In light of the second video, which shows homophobia, racism, nostalgia for Benito Mussolini, sympathy for Adolf Hitler and National Socialism within the FdI youth group, the opposition continues to demand a statement from Giorgia Meloni on the fan page investigation.
Many are also calling for the public broadcaster Rai to broadcast the investigation, as it has been reported on all channels and in all newspapers except Rai.
In response, several associations and parties organized a demonstration in front of the Rai headquarters in Turin on Wednesday evening to show solidarity with the editorial team of RaiNews24. The latter had recently complained about the public broadcaster's lack of coverage of the investigation.
"If we can't watch it on Rai, then we'll watch it on Rai," was the slogan of the initiative, which showed the second part of the investigation on a big screen.
After weeks of silence from Fratelli d'Italia (FdI) over an investigation that revealed members of the party's youth group praising Mussolini and far-right terrorists during their meetings, Senate President Ignazio La Russa condemned their actions while Giorgia Meloni has yet to comment.
