I wonder how much energy google wastes on its AI service in the regular search just to give me a worse answer than the top results I was actually looking for.
Purchase more carbon credits
Indulgences never really went away did they
:o
Unlike purchasing things for imaginary gods, carbon credits could work in theory. At least well enough to be part of the solution. That is, if they were properly regulated around strategies that actually absorb carbon and everyone is forced to be honest and transparent.
Which none of them do, of course.
The fundamental problem is that there’s money to be made by consuming more and more “sustainable” resources. The real solution is to reduce consumption on a global scale.
And how do you intend to "reduce consumption", may I inquire?
Not OC, but some ways to "reduce consumption" are reducing our usage of inefficient technology by replacing it with more energy/resource efficient means.
Examples include replacing individual automobiles with mass transit, building more dense cities to reduce consumption of construction materials/ vehicle miles, and not training massively large language models in facilities that consume more energy than an entire small country.
There are great ideas about taxing consumption, while getting rid of tax on labour.
This may be true of chopping down forests or mining coal. But we can use nuclear power. And the earth has plenty of water -- does chatgpt need clean drinking water specifically?
Datacenters moved to using evaporative cooling to save power. Which it does, but at the cost of water usage.
Using salt water, or anything significantly contaminated like grey water, would mean sediment gets left behind that has to be cleaned up at greater cost. So yes, they generally do compete with drinking water sources.
There's no way nuclear gets built out in less than 10 years.
Flip it around a little: we need to take control over production to eliminate this pointless and even pernicious waste. There is such massive waste in this system, so much energy and resources and lives dedicated to harmful or wasteful activities, that never really touches a consumerist perspective.
For example, the for-profit healthcare insurance system in the US. If you fired 90% of them, ran a central insurance option through the government, and then paid every single person you fired the same just to do whatever they wanted, you'd actually make the system better and more efficient. That 90% are not just redundant, they are there to put up barriers for needed healthcare because that makes the company money.
The more you analyze any industry, the more you will find these attributes. The product that doesn't need to exist and only does because of some other deficiency driven by capitalism. The massive bureaucies dedicated to monitoring workers so they don't unionize, the massive bureaucies that must be duplicated across 50 companies because they each have to do accounting and taxes and payroll and answer calls even though they make the same widget.
On top of all of this is war and related imperialism. Entire countries are thrown into chaos, with this economic system as the root cause. Why is Venezuela so heavily sanctioned? Simply because they nationalized their oil industry so that the money made would go to Venezuelans. This ran against the capitalist imperialist ownership of Venezuela's resources so they did their very best to destroy the country using economic means. Think of all the people forced into poverty because of this. Think of what they could have built instead. Now think of Iraq, its infrastructure bombed to nothing. We should center the people, but also think of all of the resources it takes to build a power grid, a clean water system, desalinization plants, roads, etc. All of that rubble because Iraq stepped outside the domination of US Empire, itself just an extension of global capital.
Through this we will decrease consumption as well, it is the natural outcome of not maintaining so much redundancy, of destroying so much of what is built, of being able to focus on real problems and developing real solutions rather than forcing humanity into pointless tasks.
I mean the ibm 1401 used ~13,000 Watts so power hungry is just the way it starts.
A simple trick would be to stop the wars
Ehhh. I get that exploitative techbros and cryptobros have confused the issue by latching onto the AI bubble.
But at the same time generalized artificial intelligence is very likely possible and will be an absolute game-changer if and when it happens. It's easily of similar value to fusion technology.
And it is already bringing truly impressive results into reality - protein folding and diagnostic medicine come to mind.
But at the same time generalized artificial intelligence is very likely possible and will be an absolute game-changer if and when it happens. It’s easily of similar value to fusion technology.
The "AI" we have now is basically advanced Autocomplete.
In the same way that computers are basically advanced abaci.
Don't confuse a simplification made to demonstrate the basic functioning to a layman with how things actually work.
LLM's are neural networks, which are based on a model of brain function. There's little reason to believe that we cannot eventually reach similar levels of effectiveness as human brains.
Hell - reaching the levels of pigeon brains would already be absurdly useful.
AI uses water?
Well obviously the little people who live in the computer get thirsty because it's so hot in there
Oompa-Loompas need their pools
Also the internet uses massive amounts of water and energy
I'm not clear on the details but I think some servers just hook up open loop to mains water for cooling.
Most of those are closed loop though, for example where I work you need ~1 glass of water per server and you're basically good for the next 10 years
chip manufacturing uses water
Transition to paperless office
The problem is there is people who say bullshit like this unironically.
And it doesn't even make sense
99% of a modern office's correspondence already goes on online, and only the most important stuff gets backed up on paper copies, often because of regulations that are there for a reason
Seriously. It isn't helpful towards the environment if we are using so many resources to mine chips and metals and then push it along the internet to then be trained on said AI bots. Would be more sustainable using paper and planting trees smh
must be adaptable to constant climate change
