Florida deputies who fatally shot US airman burst into wrong apartment, attorney says
Florida deputies who fatally shot US airman burst into wrong apartment, attorney says
A civil rights attorney says deputies responding to a disturbance call at a Florida apartment complex burst into the wrong unit and fatally shot a Black U.S.
Deputies responding to a disturbance call at a Florida apartment complex burst into the wrong unit and fatally shot a Black U.S. Air Force airman who was home alone when they saw he was armed with a gun, an attorney for the man’s family said Wednesday.
Senior Airman Roger Fortson, 23, who was based at the Special Operations Wing at Hurlburt Field, was in his off-base apartment in Fort Walton Beach when the shooting happened on May 3.
Civil rights attorney Ben Crump said in a statement that Fortson was on a Facetime call with a woman at the time of the encounter.
Sure, you are allowed to have a firearm. As long as we (the police) never see you with it, or anything shaped like it, on your person ever, even if you are inside your own apartment. Oh, also don't be black. Black people all have guns all the time. /s
That constitutional right doesn't feel very constitutional when it's a death sentence to exercise it.
He's got a gun! Quick! Murder him as fast as possible!
But we have the right to have them? Oh wait I get it, you have the right to have a firearm but not the right to be alive at the same time, ahh, now it makes sense. Got me with the loophole, no "right to live while bearing arms" in the constitution, but you can bear arms, just gotta forfeit your right to be alive.
They know they are the tyrants mentioned in the 2A
Of course. Right wingers never feel bound by their own rules. Rules are just a tool for oppressing the outgroup.
Uh yeah, the second amendment says nothing about tyrants. I mean the entire thing is like one sentence dude come on.
The 2A is not, and never has been, about protecting the US from tyrannical leaders. That is not what a well-regulated militia was for.
Selective enforcement is the heart of apartheid
A-fuckin-goddamn-men.
I was literally just coming to write a similar comment.
So right wingers are you still going to lick those boots or maybe actually give a shit about that 2nd amendment you love to use as a cudgel against "the left?"
Is the Air Force at least going to care about this? When is this shit going to be stopped?
They didn't care about him when he was alive.
They may care about the operational loss, but they certainly wont bring any kind of hammer down on the local PD.
I'm honestly curious about a source for your perspective on the first sentence. I've seen firsthand where the USAF negotiated on an international level for enlisted Airmen over a DUI. This particular case was in Japan and while the Airman had to serve his term as dictated by the Japanese courts, he was aloud to do so in a US Military facility, which was a significantly higher QOL for that Airman.
I couldn't find an article while looking for a minute, but it's been quite a few years. I also promise that skin tone was not a distinguishing factor.
At the end of the day, though, I would simply like information on your perspective, not to convince you to change.
I remember many years ago, the AF was charging airmen when some were splitting their tongues. The least they could do is charge these local PD with felonies. Obviously isn't going to happen.
What is crazy is the woman he was video chatting with said he heard a knock, asked who was there. No answer. Then a louder knock a couple of minutes later which is when he got his gun and they burst in. It sounds like it was unannounced.
I hope we get the video for this but Florida is trying to kill all of its open information policies, so we may never get to see it.
I really hope the cops are charged and convicted on at least manslaughter. Florida is pro-gun but also pro-cop. If the video shows them as being unannounced, I could see people actually being concerned because it could happen to any gunowner at that point, racial bias aside.
Sooo when are we going to stop bursting into any apartments?
Never?
If this man gunned them down as they came in, it would have been covered by his rights as his life was endangered. It would never go that way on court. That's when things will change though, when people start killing armed people on their property under their castle/stand your ground laws. If 30 cops in a small enough area suddenly get themselves killed they will use their union to fight for disarming civilians and taking away the 2nd amendment rights/self defense laws, or the judges will stop signing warrants once they start getting sued/disbarred for allowing the cops to enter a dangerous situation they shouldn't have. Punish the police and the judges, and change might occur. So.. never
I remember a similar case where the police didn't announce themselves and were trying to claim qualified immunity in front of a panel of judges. One of the judges said that he would have shot at them too.
- I AM NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE*
It is seeming more and more every day that the only way this situation is going to change is if more people start shooting police that are trespassing on their property. It's become readily apparent that non-violent systems intended to prevent this kind of behavior do not work.
How familiar are you with the term "Police State"?
And once again we're given the name of the victim but not the murderer. ACAB
Just look for the one posting pictures from his month long paid vacation.
Police officers "fatally shoot"
People of color "accidentally murder"
Reminds me back when Hurricane Katrina happened and the news reported a scene of black people in New Orleans breaking into a supermarket as looting and a scene of white people doing the same thing as "finding food."
Negligently murder.
wait what? the cops were addressing a noise complaint and that, somehow, gave them permission to break into someone's home? (never mind they got the wrong home to begin with)
You would think they would realize it was the wrong house when they showed up and it was quiet
the cops were addressing a noise complaint
Someone heard another acorn drop.
The office did not offer details on what kind of disturbance deputies were responding to or who called them.
Sooo... noise complaint then? They died because a deputy basically tricked them in to making themselves a threat.
I keep repeating this every fucking time I read a story like this. IF THE POLICE CAN KILL YOU FOR JUST HAVING A GUN ON YOUR PERSON. THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN GUNS THAT THE SECOND ADMEMENIT SAYS WE DO.
This happens all the fucking time and cops get away with these killings. So we are in a police state.
We need to be allowed to defend ourselves even against the police. If they break into the wrong house ( which they shouldn't be allowed to do without a fucking warrant) then we need to be allowed to shoot those fucking cops.
Then maybe they would take time to make sure they were at the right place.
ACAB.
Are the cops on vacation yet
No. They have to take a few days off first.
There will be an investigation by other pigs, therefore they will find him innocent & he will get a paid vacation by the tax payers probably promoted.
Cops claim they aren't civilians, let's throw them to the military justice system, send them to Leavenworth, they can spend their days turning big rocks into little rocks.
let’s throw them to the military justice system
The monkey's paw curls
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They very much are civilians. The losers her overtime!
the cops are out of control
They were out of control 40 years ago when they bombed a neighborhood with helicopters and explosives.
Defund the police wasn't just a blip.
Yeah but he was black so… so what?
-Florida Police.
The Boot lick The Blue crowd never have nothing to say about Police abuse.
ACAB