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TIL Most Explosives used by Hamas Are Unexploded Israeli Bombs Dropped on Palestine

medium.com Report: Most Explosives used by Hamas Are Unexploded Israeli Bombs Dropped on Palestine

Israel’s Reckless Disregard for Palestinian Lives

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This article from the NY Times seems to be the source: https://archive.li/09NnN

The title makes it sound like Hamas is shooting Israel's bombs back at Israel, but Hamas' arsenal are primarily of Iranian origin. The article reports that they do scavenge explosives from unexploded ordinance, but not the amount. However, they do take large amounts of scrap like plumbing pipes from Israeli settlements, which are used to make bombs.

I'm not an explosives expert but I would hazard a guess that scavenging missiles and such that don't go off is not going to be a viable source of material to make more missiles, factoring in the risk involved.
- This Medium article is poorly sourced.
  
  The NYT article is from 2021.
  
  The oft-repeated idea that Iran supplies the majority of Hamas weapons is also poorly sourced. It is usually attributed to the CIA's World Factbook or former US generals who now are talking heads for think tanks. These sources are highly biased.
  
  But one thing that has been well documented is the Hamas unexploded ordinance team. They have over a decade of experience disarming and retrieving Israeli bombs from Gazan homes and businesses.
  
  "That's poorly sourced, and that's poorly, sourced, but here is an idea I'm not going to provide a source for" is not a great move.
  
  I see no sources, but I’m an internet armchair activist with no prior knowledge of the subject, nor any in the field, and the confidence and words in which you described your position have convinced me and won me over. You’ve won this internet argument and have my vote.
Man if there were only some way to prevent explosives from getting to Hamas..
- Oh, I know! Use Palestinian hostages to detonate them on-site. That'll solve two of Netanyahu's problems at once /s
  
  You know they've probably considered that.
- Article 7.
“Return to Sender”
Imagine what humanity could do if we used our resources for humanitarian purposes.
- Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
  
  This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children..
  
  -President Eisenhower in his ‘chance for peace’ speech
- Such as Hamas using their tunnels for food and medicine instead of missiles from Iran?
  
  The world I imagine wouldn't need tunnels, or land grabs or genocide.
  
  They do use their tunnels to smuggle in food and water. But its not enough and they shouldn't have to
Proof the US is supplying Hamas with weapons.
- The supply chain is a little fucked though.

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