1y ago

Biden Says He Told Nigeria to Kill Fewer Civilians — but Nigeria Keeps Killing Lots of Civilians

Nigeria has gotten billions of dollars in U.S. security assistance, even as its counterterrorism campaign has a massive civilian death toll.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/axqD7

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Almost like for the last 6 months Biden has been showing the world that he's a fucking doormat when it comes to genocide.
trump and Biden both make our country a joke, just in different ways.
- This is pretty interesting. Americans seem to be convinced that their president is the king of earth and they can, with a wave of their finger change anything. This is total bullshit
  Presidential power inside the country is extremely limited by the constitution and they rarely have an opportunity to “just do what they said they were going to do”.
  Outside our borders… it’s so fucking complicated that no one person really understands the global web of power and influence. At the bottom of the pyramid though, always force of arms. If America is willing to fight you, then you do what they say.
  So… should we start a war in every place on earth that genocide is occurring? Really channel our inner dick Cheney and waste life and treasure in regime changes? Should we really cede all power in the Middle East to Iran so that we can stop our (fucking asshole of an) ally Israel from using those weapons on a highly immoral war? Should we start WWIII with china to save the Uighurs? How many African nations should we currently be bombing?
  Which of those wars do you want to fight? Have you enlisted yet? What are you waiting for?
  
  We just want the US to stop giving Israel money and weapons. How is that so fucking hard to understand?
  
  Americans seem to be convinced that their president is the king of earth and they can, with a wave of their finger change anything.
  We can just stop giving Israel money and weapons...
  Ronald Reagan did it when Israel wouldn't stop seizing their neighbors land, what's changed?
  Like, you're acting like the only recourse is fighting a war with Israel.
  We can just stop funding their genocide, or Israel will drag us into a war anyways
  
  Uh... Biden can stop the mess in Israel with a phone call. Reagan did it.
  Should we really cede all power in the Middle East to Iran so that we can stop our (fucking asshole of an) ally Israel from using those weapons on a highly immoral war?
  I'm not sure why that's the dichotomy here, but literally yes. The US has no business staying in the middle east as long as it has. Also it's a genocide, not just "immoral war".
  
  So… should we start a war in every place on earth that genocide is occurring? Really channel our inner dick Cheney and waste life and treasure in regime changes?
  No one here is advocating for that. “Stop funding genocide” is a far cry for “Channel your inner Dick Cheney”
  
  I'm not American and I'm not asking them to stop Israel's genocide. I'm asking them to:
  stop funding it
  stop supplying it with weapons
  stop vetoing UN measures against it
  stop lobbying the ICC and other international bodies in support of it
  
  At least in the case of Gaza the US are literally funding it to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Unless there's some mystical magical procedure I'm not aware of, Biden could veto anything that supports Israel that comes out of Congress. A literal unused one person choke point that keeps passing weapons to Israel. The frustrating thing about Gaza is how simple it would be to stop it. Stop the flow of weapons. The US has threatened it before, and gotten results.
  Please stop pretending the US can't wield power that isn't an invasion force.
  Yeah, this article is also about funding...sooooo....
  
  Found the genocide supporter
- We're all doormats unless we actually want to get involved militarily. No country wants to put its military on the ground in any of these places. Nobody gives enough of a shit to help the Armenians. Nobody gave enough of a shit to help the people of Hong Kong. Nobody gives enough of the shit to help the Kurds. Nobody gives enough of a shit to help basically anyone. There's frankly not enough money in it for corporations and not enough public support of it for politicians. So it ain't going to happen.
US typical please kill nicer, since you are making us look bad response.
- Only if you believe a POS like the Intercept.
  
  I don't need to believe The Intercept, that was literally US direct response to the genocide in Gaza. Here is a direct quote: Mr Blinken’s public comments that “we provided Israel advice that only the best of friends can offer on how to minimise civilian deaths” <...>
  
  Only if you believe a POS like the Intercept.
  https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/
  Seems fine...
  Is your issue that they lean left?
Man the comments here don't give a shit about dead civilians in Nigeria do they? The minute black people are dying and they immediately want to change the subject to Gaza. That's just fascinating.
"where did you learn to kill civili-"
"FROM YOU!!! OK!?! I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!!"
Oh, cool, yet another Country that is not in any way in the control of Joe Biden, whose actions you idiots can blame him for.
- He is in control of the guns he sends them. If he doesn't want to be linked to civilian killings, all he needs to do is to stop sending guns.
  
  Nope, not in any real way. What he is control of is the compromise which results in the guns getting sent and attempting to limit the damage from those compromises. Which happens to be precisely what he has done.
- Honest questions seeing as you seem so sure:
  Does the executive have no ability to block arms sales to human rights abusers?
  What methods are available to block arms sales?
  Is a government not under any moral or ethical obligation to prevent the armament of human rights abusers?
  
  Congress has to vote on bills for arms packages to our allies. The President has to sign it or not.
  The catch is they always package stuff like this with stuff like "give water to Rwanda" so the President is forced to sign it otherwise he's the "no water for Rwanda President".
  The best example of this lately is arming Israel. It's packaged with probably the last ever military aid to Ukraine. They need it to literally not turn 30% of the continent of Europe into Russia. But means we gotta send shit to the assholes in Israel too. But it's easier for people to just focus on the last part.
  
  None of your bullet points have anything to do with the thread.
  Your goal post moving is normal and expected, so expect it to be ignored.
- I agree. Let's blame Biden and Democrat and left woke people altogether!
- Is Biden sending them billions of dollars and making sure any attempt at peace through the UN fails?
  Found the genocide supporter
  
  No Biden isn't. He hasn't got billions to give anyone, he has millions and I see no evidence of any such activity in his financials.

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