Censorship is censorship
Censorship is censorship
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An edited meme image featuring two stills from MegaMind. The top still shows Titan speaking to a the mayor, who is labelled "TikTokers getting censored by China" and saying "You have freed us!" overlaid. Titan has a US flag as a label, and is saying "Oh, I wouldn't say freed, more like under new management."
How dare the US ban my favorite psyops platform run by a hostile authoritarian government!
Shhh. The Republicans might want it now.
Yet to be seen really. Depends on who buys it (or if the CCP decides to sell it at all).
In the US it's not quite the same as in China as all information in China is controlled by the government, there is no free speech protection and no separation between what you see and what the government wants you to see. In the US by contrast it would likely be a private entity, who will set their own rules for good or bad.
I think there is a good chance the CCP refuses to let it go, because it was never about profit to them. It was about control, and judging by the amount of death threats our legislators received that goal was exceeded.
My honest thoughts are that they won't sell it and just shut it down cmpletely. The CCP has zero interest in monetizing the platform. Now imagine having 175 million people pissed about their beloved platform taken away. The CCP has about a year to do real psyops damage before shutting the platform. This will enrage the people addicted to it.
I never thought about it that way. Basically any algorithm that sorts posts could be argued to be censorship. But you can't sort based on straight vote either because of fake accounts and bots. I guess we are just doomed to be manipulated.
I think they're referring to US talk about possibly banning tiktok.
Platform censorship is different than state censorship, and content curation is different than censorship.
It's "I think you'll like this" vs "I don't want you to see this".
So, you think it's a protected right to speak freely on a privately owned platform? Tiktok, Xitter, etc., don't need to make allowances for anyone. They exist to make money off of their users.
It astounds me to this day that people don't understand the basic tenets of social media: if it's free, YOU are the product.
That’s valid if someone was talking about the first amendment, but that wasn’t mentioned.
I think the clear solution is the user being able to choose between highest rated for a defined period or by chronological without ratings considered, with a heavy focus on anti-bot moderation. Of course, searches are trickier, because sorting search results chronologically doesn't work that well. It's also harder to attempt to interpret contextual information about a search query without using an algorithm.
Fun fact, "show whatever has the most votes" and "show whatever was published most recently" and even "show something completely at random" are all also algorithms.
Still better than having our vulnerabilities dug up with the intention to militarize them. China would be ecstatic for us all to be dragged into "Pig Butchering" as they call it, and I'm sure our infrastructure makes easy targets for them, now.
The USA has far less to benefit from the destruction of the USA.
Jokes on you, our propaganda is also anti-US interests.
They can use yt shorts to deliver the same messages they were delivering.
Sense, or Ship
To be honest I rather the Chinese government steal my data than the US government at this point.
I'd honestly like to know why (for real, no judging, just curious)
Oh, I'm judging. I wonder if this guy you're replying to pretended to care about the Uyghur people, a few years ago. That was pretty fashionable. Weird how everyone stopped giving a shit about them, right?
Not surprising, though. Because now we're back to "pffft, all sides are the same. Both parties are the same. All the countries are the same. Everything's the same." That's the fashionable sentiment, among certain political quarters.
But no, goddammit, it's not all the same. The way we're headed, maybe we'll eventually have the kind of constant state surveillance and trips to reeducation camps that the PRC furnishes to its people, BUT WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT SHIT, RIGHT NOW.
That matters. We're waaaaaay far from perfect and we're definitely headed in a shitload of wrong directions, but we're not actually a totalitarian goddamn dictatorship, yet. We have a de facto oligarchy. And a corporate klepto-state. That needs to be fixed.
But I'm fed up with this "nah, the USA is the worst" attitude. I see our country as a shitty old Ford Fiesta, with no air conditioning and a transmission that keeps making weird noises. Sure, it sucks, and it's gonna cost an arm and a leg to fix...but it's the only car we've got. So there's no sense in ignoring the problems until the transmission blows up on the highway, and it's catastrophic.
That's basically what jokers like the guy you're replying to are advocating, though. Not only do they resist taking our shitty car into the shop while it's still fixable, they're looking over at guy in the Yugo with the bald tires and the potentially deadly exhaust leak, and saying "we're no better off than him."
If it's a US company, they'll just sell it to other companies as advertising data which is intrusive as shit.. It's all the fucking same at this point. At least I'd be less likely to see a personal impact if the Chinese government uses it for metadata analysis or whatever the fuck, vs. US companies directly using it to advertise more bullshit to me, and then selling it to other US companies for more marketing bullshit..
That being said, it's a moot point for me since I've never used Tik Tok and never will. It's straight garbage.
Chinese propaganda masquerading as a meme.