Roku says 576,000 user accounts hacked after second security incident

We all fucking knew it!!!

That's why these mother fuckers forced that agreement a month ago

Honestly though, a bunch of other businesses and services started pulling that arbitration shit recently too.
- Really? Which ones? So I can keep away from their shit too
All signs point to Yes.
TBF the report says this was done using credential stuffing, so it wasn't really Roku's fault.
It wasn’t forced. You could opt out.
- By sending a physical mail to their office, if what I've heard on smashing security is correct.
- The agreement that was a pop-up you could only accept?
  My dog answered that before I got a look at it. Is that legally binding?

Remember that forced arbitration clause that was in the news last month?

Guess I'll pick this moment to remind people that this forced arbitration thing is a scare tactic and is not legally binding. You can still sue (assuming you have the funds or a lawyer willing to work pro bono).
What’s that?

At this point, why even consider getting a Roku?

Note, I rarely, if ever, use a TV anymore, so smart TVs have never appealed to me. But Roku seems to be very anti consumer (between the forced arbitration and their ad policy), so I don't understand why someone looking to get a smart TV would actually want a Roku over an alternative.

Maybe I'm just poorly informed, but it just seems like almost anything else should be a better option?

I have used Rokus for a while. I have a stick, and a TV that came with it installed.
Pros: It's cheap, and it works. Their interface isn't perfect, but it's good enough. It's supposed to serve ads, but thanks to my pihole it's just a blank rectangle taking up part of the screen. The app is serviceable. My wife and I can simultaneously stream the audio to our phones, and both listen with headphones, which means we can enjoy a movie even when the kids are asleep.
When I chose the platform originally, the other options were Google, Amazon, and Apple, and at the time they were still fighting over licensing each app and proprietary software. I also had a KODI HTPC at the time, and it's still running 15 years later as a Plex media server. The Roku had a faster response time and easier navigation. Roku has a Plex app so I can still stream all the movies I have.
Cons: The stick is showing its age, and the new terms of service are just scary enough to put me on notice that I might need a new streaming device
If they ever show an advertisement or a commercial before or over top of something I'm watching, that will be the day I switch. Today, I would probably go with an nvidia shield, or maybe even a game console since they all run streaming apps now. But any system has the potential for enshittification.
You literally can’t buy a non-smart TV anymore
- You literally can. They are called signage TVs.
- True, but you can (for now) buy a smart TV and never hook it up to the Internet/use the smart functions.
  I have a little Linux micropc hanging off my "smart" LG TV - the TV is effectively a 52" monitor.
IIRC I've read the Roku TVs at least can be set up in an offline mode. Some of the other brands I've heard get obnoxious when not allowed to connect.
For the TVs where Roku/FireOS/others I'm forgetting are the primarily operating system, they subsidize the cost of the TV making it much cheaper compared to others, especially for the size. Of course, this lower price point comes at the cost of privacy and intrusion of advertising.

feels like you can’t even exist anymore without all your data getting leaked by someone who aggressively must consume as much of it as possible.

Hulu you can say, “well at least I can pirate and avoid giving my info up.” But what can you do against things like when Equifax was hacked?

There needs to be real privacy reform and real data privacy laws in the USA. bullshit ass second-tier country

Agreed the credit agency breaches are especially fucked since you don't even have a say or not in participating.
Then they make you PAY to freeze your account. It's fucking racket.

I use VLC and an HDMI cable...fuck services from any company. They are all untrust worthy and don't give a damn about you or their product provided you see ads and they sell your information.

Right after they made you sign a thing saying you can't sue them lol

In which kind of country would that even be legal/enforceable lmao

Aw, right when everyone was starting to like you guys so much, too. Bummer!

I'll put $10 on whatever org hacked them did it because theyre trying to put ads in HDMI lol.

You either die the hero, or live long enough to become the villain. Roku is definitely in full villain stage.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Streaming giant Roku has confirmed a second security incident in as many months, with hackers this time able to compromise more than half a million Roku user accounts.

In a statement Friday, the company said about 576,000 user accounts were accessed using a technique known as credential stuffing, where malicious hackers use usernames and passwords stolen from other data breaches and reuse the logins on other sites.

Roku said in fewer than 400 account breaches, the malicious hackers made fraudulent purchases of Roku hardware and streaming subscriptions using the payment data stored in those users’ accounts.

Roku said it refunded customers affected by the account intrusions.

Following the security incidents, Roku said it rolled out two-factor authentication to users.

Two-factor authentication prevents credential stuffing attacks by adding an additional layer of security to online accounts.

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