Movie industry demands US law requiring ISPs to block piracy websites

Cool. Now all of Google Drive is blocked because one guy hosted a movie there for a few days.

Hahahahaha

Unintended consequences - what are they going to do once 90% of connections are encrypted, include use of VPNs and encrypted DNS?

This is what they're promoting.

Host your own encrypted DNS on a VPS in a non-compliant location, use a VPN to connect to it.

So many ways these idiots are cutting their own throats.

Also, let's list the companies rather than say "Movie Industry". Or let that be a link to a Wiki article listing all the companies and their holdings.

Fuck em all at this point. I go to maybe 2 movies a year, at most. And I'm cutting subscription services, down to 2 at this point.

an industry which throws away finished movies because they don't want to spend the money to release it?

yeah nah, you're disqualified from an opinion on piracy.

Piracy does not hurt revenue and, in fact, may actually help it:

https://www.engadget.com/2017-09-22-eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact.html

From the article...

He also told the audience that pirate-site operators "aren't teenagers playing an elaborate prank. The perpetrators are real-life mobsters, organized crime syndicates—many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, and other societal ills.

I'm honestly surprised they didn't throw the word 'terrorist' into that description as well.

Legally guaranteed corporate profits, with enforcement funded by taxpayers.

We should abolish this practice.

Imagine how much money the movie industry would have if it stopped wasting time and effort on the false idea that 1 download = 1 lost sale.

Isn’t it fucking crazy that “industry demands ____” is likely to come to fruition, but “group of individuals demands XYZ” isn’t likely to change shit?

I demand better living conditions. We all demand an economy that doesn’t favor the rich. Not shit will change.

Companies “demand” shit and then just literally write the laws and hand them to legislators who pass them.

What year is this? 2008?!? Now we have Netflix and piracy is not a problem, right? Oooohhhh right they decided to kill the golden egg chicken but they still want the eggs

I still don't understand why they keep going after piracy when it is a symptom of the bigger problem. Movies today are expensive and often made inaccessible through BS digital services that periodically just make films and TV unavailable to save server space or avoid paying for licensing.

I would guess that the vast majority of people are not pirating content. I'd also guess that if digital providers and studios would actually try to change the distribution model that allows customers to buy content that is later turned off on a whim, they would see meaningful change in piracy activity.

I demand laws requiring the movie industries to throw any IPs they don't want to use or any movies they don't give reasonable and simple access straight into the public domain

Wage theft and fraud poses a larger threat to the economy. Rather than hiring 20 million dollars of internet policing to save zero dollars of the economy could we get 20 million dollars of police that prosecute fraudsters and shitty employers?

The parasites that keep the money aren't the "movie industry", the people who actually work to make the movies are.

Fuck 'em. Pirate more.

Oh no, now I will have to pay $50/mo to re-watch marvel movie 832 and an action movie where the main character has to go on a 2hr quest for revenge after someone shot their pet.

...I barely watch movies anymore, there's not been a ton of great new stuff imo. I'm so sick of subscriptions, too.

I would propose a law that states " All companies must keep their data away from the Internet. If the data ends up in the Internet then it's up for grabs by anyone"

The movie industry can't bother to provide and preserve the movies they make, they should shut the fuck up.

USDoJ: How about no.

Oh, right. This isn't 1992 when the DoJ had balls and a constitution.

"They are deying us our Corporate Right to Profit!!!"

Okay, I’ll use my own DNS provider

Half a year later, additional categories are added for CSAM. And another year later for illegal copies and cracks. All the while some states openly missuse it against porn and abortion. We know that game already!

They can go F themselves

Anyone have a list of legislators who are also investors in VPN companies?

For all the random crap American ISPs have done, the one thing they usually don't do is piracy monitoring unless they get paid a premium to do it.

Like Disney pays ISPs and other data companies to track torrent peers and report any IPs in the USA. But I bet you at&t would not care at all if they weren't being paid for it lol.

Service Provider

Not Service Regulator

They shouldn’t have any knowledge of what websites people visit

Piracy websites should add a copy of the U.S. Constitution to their websites. Just slap a "/constitution.html" on the site.

Then, if the MPA succeeds, we can talk about how the U.S. Government is blocking access to hundreds/thousands of copies of the Constitution online.

If it's that big a deal go after the service providers for the servers, this type of shit just makes inhibiting free speech easier.

If I don't want people using Truth Social I guess making a bunch of accounts to share torrent links would be enough to shut it down?

The MPAA still has never been able to demonstrate that privacy even has actual impacts on movie and ticket sales... When Netflix was super convenient and had a lot of content piracy went down. Turns out splitting to dozens of streaming services made it difficult enough that people just went back to sailing the high seas. So lower your prices, make it more convenient to pay for services and people will just do that instead.

Frankly combining the recent and less recent events - I think fuck them.

I can understand selling a book or a movie and it being theft to download a copy. It's at least logically consistent - you show someone something with a condition that they pay you, it's dishonest to look and not pay.

But owning characters and universes and their names and so on?

And these laws not being used against "AI" firms?

All at the same time?

No. Right is about compromise. They don't do that, so we don't owe them anything. And let them obey what is made for their benefit first.

Instead of being contempt with one yacht, they're gonna do what they can to have zero.

When A24 and state run film studios like Vicscreen are the only ones making anything remotely worth the box office, you have a problem, and burning down the barn to stop the foxes from all those delicious hens aren't gonna fix it. Just more socialized losses.

And when people demand living wages, or properly priced housing, or affordable food, that shit doesn't matter right?

Fuck the movie industry.

They were doing just fine until people started to hate theatres and so their main source of ripping people off faded away.

Fuck em

Tor Tor Tor Tor Tor that's the way the vpn goes.

(In the cadence of the thong song)

Wake me when YouTube gets blocked.

Block piracy websites with what? Dns resolver?

looks over at usenet-only arr stack

"Ok, whatever."

Basically demands lawmakers for ISPs implement censorship tools.

Lmao’s in VPN

I mean, good luck with that. Pirate bay is never going down at this point.

Honestly these movie companies are doing it to themselves.. When I was a kid in the 90s movies would take 3-6 months for home media, now it is like 1-2 months tops combine that with $15 tickets and I'll give it a wait and see. Holiday movies wouldn't see a release until the following year.

Or what?

Nah

Fuck that.

Hmmm, yes. Build a whole generation of tech savvy people with knowledge of VPNs and that activelly hate your guts. I cannot foresee any way this could backfire.

Ugh Charles Rivkin has such a punch-able face.

What’s a “movie”? Is that like some kinda Olde English thing like castles and rickets?

Charles Rivkin... The serial killer?