Merry Christmas!

I think that kid is mostly crying because he’s got so many extra fingers that he doesn’t have a middle finger to return the gesture.

Why can ai not figure out fingers?
- hands are hard even for real artists.

Yes Nvidia is still a shitty company like every other. But their open source drivers run pretty well by now.

Assuming you're talking about Nouveau, it's pretty hit or miss depending on what card you have. My previous laptop had an MX330 and it couldn't do hardware acceleration stuff and 120Hz via HDMI, not to mention screen sharing on Wayland was wonky.
Oh, and it's worth to mention that "their" open source driver had nothing to do with Nvidia themselves; they absolute do not care, as opposed to AMD.
- I think he means nvk. It's a whole new world. I thought I just heard it's ready. So worth checking out I guess.
- I'm not talking about Nouveau. I'm talking about the Open Source drivers from Nvidia. They released them a while ago and they've gotten pretty good lately.
The narrative around Nvidia seems to have done a complete 180 in the last year or two. I'm skeptical that it's as good as many are stating.
Are these OSS drivers maintained by Nvidia? Or is it Nouveau?
- I know practically nothing about Nvidia's drivers, but I can see them doing a 180° flip, because they want to grab a chunk of that AI market.
  Even before LLMs, they were investing there, and now it's just completely settled that tons of AI-related hardware needs to be either a beefy a server machine or a low-profile edge PC. For both, Linux is very much preferrable.
Yes, and with the addition of NVK it's gotten a lot better. There is still some issues on Wayland and specific problem cards, but it's not nearly as bad as it was even 2y ago.

I've been using NVIDIA cards on Linux for 20 years... I don't get this

I tried it for 2 years. After having a lot of weird issues I finally upgraded to an AMD card and so many of those issues went away. Firstly I can install updates without worrying about breaking games or random graphical things. AMD has been way more solid.
AMD is way better than NVIDIA
- That is highly subjective

Missing the joke here? We run a 3090 and a 3900x just fine on ArchLinux.

Maybe it’s a Wayland joke?
- I'm pretty sure the 3090 works fine under Wayland these days.

I don't know who would be mad about a 3090 I'd be cool fighting nvidia for more than 3x my rx480

Question: Is buying a Laptop with a Nvidia graphic card is bad idea for Linux(XFCE user)?

Yes, IMO. If you haven't bought the hardware yet, there's no reason to subject yourself to the headache of lacking Linux support, instead support companies that value open source.
AMD and Intel GPU's simply work out of the box with all features.
And it's not like on a laptop you need the highest of high end graphics acceleration anyway.
- I use the integrated graphics of my Ryzen 9 7940HS and they're more than enough for all workloads. Light weight gaming also works pretty well on it.
- Thanks
If you actually have a choice stay away from Nvidia although it's been a hot minute since I last saw a laptop with an amd gpu.
Yes.
I own an Omen 15 inch with 3060. It has some issues but it works fine. However, my next one will definitely be AMD.
One major issue is that I have to use my desktop manager (mutter, for Gnome on Fedora) with the Nvidia drivers, not the integrated GPU of AMD, otherwise external monitors do not work at all. This is a problem because dedicated GPU cannot go to sleep amd constantly uses at least 15 watts, reducing the battery life.
Another issue is, a lot of times, my laptop won't wake up after sleeping. I have checked the logs, and I am 90% sure that it is because I login to my desktop manager using dedicated GPU. If you don't need an external monitor, or if you have a dedicated mux switch, you should not have to face any of these problems.
A few minor problems are that I cannot use the official builds with Nvidia drivers, if I want to use secure boot. For secure boot, I have to rely on third party developers for this. An issue I saw sometime ago was, when I used Manjaro, my maximum TDP of the GPU never exceeded 79 watts. When using Fedora, ot goes up to 95 watts. On Windows it used to go upto 100 watts. Also, there are some softwares like keyboard lighting manager, bios updater etc, which work on Windows only, not even on a VM. Also, the fans never exceed 4099 RPM on Linux, whereas on Windows they could go upto 6500. But I have always seen Linux to be 10-20% faster in my Blender render tests.
I hope this helps. If you have any questions, feel free to DM.
- Thanks you so much for such detail reply.
If possible get a laptop with a thunderbolt 3 port and a compatable external gpu
I've got a laptop with nvidia graphics and I've never had a problem.
Most of the serious problems have to do with Wayland, so xfce will be fine. I'm running it on a t480 with a geforce mx150 just fine.
If it's a good deal, take it. Even if you do decide to switch ot Wayland at some point, those issues should be mostly fixed soon™
- Yea XFCE use X protocol for now but maybe in next release it will use Wayland that's why I was asking and Thanks

The funny thing is that the vast majority of NVIDIA GPUs are probably used in Linux-based systems because of the MLAI hype.

what happens when you have the money to write software for your hardware and not give back to open source because $$$.

I just bought an Nvidia GPU because my main use is vifo, and AMD is hard to make work.
Im still salty