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Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England says

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Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England says

www.thepinknews.com /2024/03/12/trans-puberty-blockers-nhs-england-prescribe-gender-affirming-healthcare/

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1y ago

Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England says

www.thepinknews.com /2024/03/12/trans-puberty-blockers-nhs-england-prescribe-gender-affirming-healthcare/

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Go check the UnitedKingdom subreddit if you want to see the celebratory bloodlust of the average Briton, the blatant alternative truths and so on, and this is of the young progressive sort, the average 40+ boomeroid probably no longer bothers with that mask even.
I am so tired. I've fought the good fight for so long for my people but in the end it's like it was all pointless.
- Go check the UnitedKingdom subreddit if you want to see the celebratory bloodlust of the average Briton
  urgh, remind me to never follow that advise again. What a bunch of hateful, clueless assholes.
  
  Are they real though, or bots? It's increasingly difficult to tell these days.
- As MLK stated "The moral arc of the universe is long but bends towards justice " stay fighting for good!
  
  An arc so long it looks flat I guess...
- There’s been a noticeable shift on r/UnitedKingdom since around the time of the Reddit protests. I no longer participate there but I’ve seen quite a bit of extra unpleasantness the few times of taken a curious look at it.
  Not that it was ever a great place to discuss trans issues, but the nastiness seems to be spreading to all manner of topics now.
  
  There may have been an organized effort by the far right to take over various national subreddits. It gives the impression that their views are overwhelmingly popular in the country, when really they're not. The subreddit /r/Canada also got dominated by the far right, which led to the creation of /r/onguardforthee. At least one of the mods of /r/Canada was shown to be an active neo-Nazi, and another declared himself a white supremacist. There is still too much support for the far right in Canada (and we're looking at a big lurch to the right in the next election), but it's not as dominant as you'd think from that subreddit.
  
  r/Canada is very similar
  
  There’s always been that undercurrent of hate. The first few comments on any immigration story was enough to see that.
  But yeah, I think the demographic did shift a bit in the last year or so
- Haven't they always been like that?
  r/GreenAndPleasant split off from them for a reason
A big FUCK YOU to all Tories, Terfs and similar asshats.
Edit: I'll donate money to Gender GP even harder from now on.
All 83 of them?
Really that is the total for the entire country. Ya, it's a "serious" problem. .... Sure
- I think they were hoping to make more
- This is only in England, though
I'm not particularly well educated on the subject but according to the BBC:
Fewer than 100 young people in England are currently prescribed puberty blockers by the NHS. They will all able to continue their treatment.
So why such a big fuss?
- Blocks any future access to trans kids
  
  Can puberty blocking be reversed at a later date?
  Or can blocked puberty be reverted later?
  I could agree with a ban whole heatedly if blocking can't be reversed and blocked cannot be reverted, but I would likely to oppose a ban it if blocking can be reversed and blocked could be reverted.
  Gets a little fuzzy if it's one or the other though.
  Wouldn't want someone to miss their only chance to block puberty, but also wouldn't want someone to make a permanent choice at 13-14 which can't be reversed if they want to later on.
Glyndŵr, os ydych wedi gorffen cael te yn y bryniau hynny, gallem ddefnyddio llaw.
Scientist have collected all the data and decided the experts on Lemmy are wrong.
- Complete miss characterisation. It is lack of data the NHS is arguing with. Not scientific evidence.
  The article is bluntly stating that the NHS has made this choice because no evidence of the long term safty exists. Not because scientists say it is unsafe.
Good, there's not enough scientific evidence to claim it's safe for children, hence the ban....
- We have decades of studies. You do not know what you are talking about.
  
  I For someone interested in reading the studies, can you point some out on the long term effects?
  
  Clearly NHS based their decision on different studies, but by all means feel free to share
- Given the drug has been used for almost 40 years. Lack of evidence it is safe. Is just a political way of saying we have no evidence it is dangerous.
  After 40 years of clinical use. With many patients benifiting from its application. And the medications passing the medical trials standards of the 1980s. Pretty much any other medication the NHS has banned or restricted use of. Was because of new evidence. Not the lack of it. I say pretty much. Because cost and politics has been used in the past. The NHS was just more open about the reasons.
  Restricting a long used medicine with a lack of evidence. Is a political not a scientific choice.
  
  I have no idea what you source those beliefs on but research dome in Sweden just last year concludes:
  Data on the effects on psychosocial health are lacking but there is some evidence that hormonal treatment may impact on bone maturation.
  https://news.ki.se/systematic-review-on-outcomes-of-hormonal-treatment-in-youths-with-gender-dysphoria
  So no, I would not claim it is risk free, especially when given to children.
- Funny that international studies show otherwise...
  Welcome to my blocked list.
- I believe there are exceptions to the ban in the case of studies that are actively taking place. This isn't a complete halt on their use; just the general prescription has been paused.
  The side effects like the effects on bone density and brain development do seem concerning and merit more investigation.
  
  Yes, stated as a recommendation until supporting evidence of its benefits can be found. The thing is that the side effects as you mentioned are well known and can unediably be linked to the therapy, thus warranting caution.

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