South Korea passes ban on dog meat consumption
South Korea passes ban on dog meat consumption
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South Korea passes bill to ban eating dog meat, ending controversial practice as consumer habits change | CNN
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now do beef
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Go vegan
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No.
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Lame
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Lets see if the dog farmers keep their promise (or threat) to release all the now unneeded dogs in the capital.
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I've never really gotten the controversy on this one, the only real difference is dogs are the only primarily carnivorous mammal we as a species eat in any volume. Otherwise the problem appears to be mostly emotional, like I have a furball and I'd never eat him but I don't have an emotional connection with the beef marinating in the fridge.
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I'm actually surprised this is in uplifting news, unless outlawing meat consumption at all and enforcing veganism is uplifting. Which it might be to some people, but I like eating meat.
I'm eagerly awaiting lab-grown meat to become cheaper than slaughtered meat, though!
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I would LOVE it if they had lab grown meat that could approximate real types of meat. I would stop eating slaughtered meat immediately and never go back.
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I downvoted this post as I don't find this uplifting at all. I don't eat meat, and I love my dog, but there's no reason to single out dog meat consumption other than cultural norms and globalization. It seems like an unreasonable position for the South Korean government to have taken.
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My Korean meat farm rescue Jindo and I disagree with you.
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You gave him such a great gift of love and care. I'm so happy you did that.
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That's cool, dude. I like your dog. But maybe think about the next pig you eat as ALSO being a sweet, intelligent, and inherently valuable critter.
There's no reason to save a dog that doesn't also lead to saving a pig, just as there's no reason to eat a pig that's not also a reason to eat a dog.
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Iirc the reason for singling out dog meat was because of the cruel ways dogs in particular are killed for dog meat.
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I'm interested, and I don't know anything about South Korean meat production.
To be clear, I'm not arguing that people should eat dogs. I'm arguing that meat production tends to be horrific, and treating dogs any differently is ignoring some major issues in favor of human bias. I do know something about US factory farming, and it's horrific: cruel to animals, environmentally unconscionable, and a social justice issue for humans working in and living near plants (for example, hog farms in North Carolina). I'm not sure how much worse dog farming could be. We just have more sympathy for them.
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Chickens being suffocated and baked alive in thousands at a time still ok tho. Stupid fucking chickens.
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I’m reminded of PJ O’Rourke’s comment when he tried dog in S Korea: “Surprisingly tasty when you consider what a hot wet dog smells like”
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This should help to drive down the price of dog meat in the US.
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Literally 1984 lol
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They have a cultural inferiority complex , and they can't stop simping for the west.
Why is Lamb allowed to be consumed and dogs not ? can't both animals be taken as pets.
You can't be owned more than South Korea is today.
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Theyre not simping for the west. Nobody eats dog in SK anymore and their own people called for the law.
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Closer, nobody eats dog in SK anymore and the fascist Yoon administration wanted a cheap optics win.
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In the attempt to seem intellectual, people say the craaaaaziest things. Is it that hard to believe that dogs are different from other animals, both domesticated and otherwise? I don't even think you need to be an animal behaviourist to understand that some animals are much, MUCH more emotionally intelligent than others. Comparing a dog to a chicken or cow is just nuts to me.
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Aren't dogs as or less intelligent than pigs or something ? We murder an unfathomable amount of them daily and that doesn't seem to bother anyone.
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Pretty sure pigs will eat meat too
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You don't seem to know a lot about cows. Maybe you should check out some of these short videos and see if you still feel the same:
https://youtu.be/ydddaVf38PI?si=b7sv_v7gs4WHljUP
https://youtube.com/shorts/PbLUz3RIAoA?si=WCBebHNXrZHXrZcz
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There are countless studies proving the high emotional intelligence of dogs. People are conflating this with general intelligence with pigs. Sorry you're being downvoted, you're not wrong.
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"Breeding animals for consumption is fine, except this one."
It is slightly odd how people are like, "cows? Gimme that burger. Sheep? Mmm, mint sauce. Chicken? Batter that baby up". But then suddenly everyone turns into a vegan when it's a dog or a horse.
I've got no interest in eating dog meat, but where's the consistency?
I've got no counterpoint, but I had the same realization, and it has made me question not being vegan. I'm like 80% without trying, but also replacing eggs and cheese is difficult
Fuck vegan absolutists, the fact that you're trying is enough
You can do it :)
It can be scary thinking about it but give it a real try and you'll realize that it's actually much easier than you thought.
I like to get eggs from my neighbors who have backyard chickens if they have extra. I can see them, know they're not in pain, or mass produced :)
Cheese I still have no idea. Their isn't anything easily available, like almond milk for dairy milk. The vegan ones I've tried (years ago) are gross and full of emulsifiers. Always striving/looking though.
I'm going the other way. I'm going to eat all types of meat. No more meat determination from me. I'll eat anything that moves now.
There's none, it's based on what society tells you to feel empathy for. Dog eaters and corrida enjoyers are no different from people eating massively produced industrial chicken, they just live in an environment where it is normal to do that.
The base difference is that dogs evolved side by side with our species to develop and return emotional bonding and feedback with humans.
All other animals we managed to domesticate, at best, tolerate us or fear us. Cute little photos of cows and pigs enjoying being hugged and petted are exceptions, not norm.
I've been trying to understand, for years, what happened to turn dogs and cats food in asian countries (beside famines, hence desperation) but every single source I was ever able to find always gets muddled in exotheric notions of ”medicinal" use or some other folklore high tale.
For context: in Vietnam, cat meat is often served as being "little tiger".
To the extent of my knowledge, the rest of the world never needed to wrap an animal in an exotheric tale to declare it as potential food.
It's purely for a cheap optics win. President Yoon is a fascist incel that has been taking L after L, so he worked to ban dog meat despite almost nobody eating it except the absolute poorest of society. Dog meat isn't a delicacy, it wasn't something people ate because they saw it as high status, it was largely abandoned by an increasingly westernized South Korea, except for those who couldn't afford anything else. Barely anyone was eating it.
Instead, it's virtue signaling by a fascist looking to grab cheap publicity wins rather than actually making good systemic change. Dog meat wasn't an especially pressing concern, it was an almost gone practice out of necessity, coming from food insecurity, especially during and after the Korean War.
TL;DR still a good thing, but ultimately just a publicity stunt to distract from the fascist President Yoon butchering the economy and targeting women, minorities, and disabled people.
don't forget that india cow is sacred, so it's even worse for them seeing us eating cows than us seeing others eating dogs
They eat horse in Korea, too. It's just not as widespread as dog, so no ban yet.
Horse is also eaten in most of europe and asia and there is much less taboo about it than dog meat.
I agree. The only counter I can think of is that for thousands of years most dogs have been bred as companions or workers. To me it feels like a violation of some ancient pact to slaughter them. I doubt this has much merit. Just a feeling I get.
Yes this is a magical thinking cope to handle the cognitive dissonance
I mean "ancient pact"? really?
Why does it need to be consistent? I think it's fine to say I'm emotionally attached to this animal but not that one.
This TYPE of animal. It makes no sense. Either you are for animals or you don't care about them.
We domesticated a highly emotionally intelligent animal. Who cares if there's "consistency", if they were killed to make it consistent it wouldn't be better.
I think he's arguing that if that's better, then why not ban everything else? Cows are domesticated and just as emotionally intelligent as a dog.
How is it odd? Dogs have been pets for like 15k years. The other animals have been specifically bred to eat.
Ask the people of SK, who no longer eat dog, why they see a difference.