Tesla lowers Model Y, S, and X range estimations following exaggeration complaints
Tesla lowers Model Y, S, and X range estimations following exaggeration complaints
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Tesla lowers Model Y, S, and X range estimations following exaggeration complaints
Not the Cybertruck story, but perhaps more important.
The Justice Department has been probing Tesla for their exaggerated range claims, and suddenly Tesla has decided to reduce their estimates on these already-released cars.
They need to update the actual software, not only the published estimates. My nephew was left stranded at 2am because the built in navigation which directs you to super charging stations based on charge remaining said he had 5 miles of charge to reach a station 1 mile away. He didn't plan the charging stop. The Tesla navigation software told him at the previous charge station where to drive to reach the next charge without running out.
The "5 miles range" turned into 0 miles over the next few seconds. He had to push his car the rest of the way to reach the supercharger station.
This despite Tesla's claim that you can drive a little longer even when you reach "0 miles" range.
Im not sure I agree this is a concern. All my life I’ve been told that range is just an estimate and it’s especially variable toward the end. Granted that’s gas and analog measurements, but battery estimates also aren’t exact. I would never drive an ICE car down to an estimated 5 miles remaining, I know not to trust that estimate so much.
While an EV should be more accurate, are we sure this isn’t a case of more precision than accuracy? Maybe the only problem is the false confidence of being overly precise
You keep missing the point that it was Tesla navigation that told him he could reach the next nearest Supercharging station.
HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.
As to driving an ICE with 5 miles remaining, ICE cars have 1 gallon minimum in the tank when they say 0 miles left. My Sienna had 3 gallons. That's 15-45 miles under worst conditions. Tesla used to go 20+ miles at 0 range but that must have changed in their quest to advertise maximum range.
I didn't think you'd be able to push an EV. Do Tesla's have some sort of tow or neutral mode?
"Neutral" on an EV doesn't mean the same thing as on a IC car. The motors are still physically connected to the wheel, so turning the wheels will create an electric current.
That current will flow into the batteries from the "wrong end". Normally, charge controllers and battery management systems will ensure every cell of battery gets a balanced charge, but those systems don't work when you tow or push an EV. You can end up ruining the battery. Another issue is that power and friction cause heat, and when the car isn't running, that might cause overheating.
Now, the good news is that you're very unlikely to push an electric car fast enough or far enough for either of those to become a real issue. Electric cars are still big and heavy.
Dunno but he did it while his girlfriend steered. It is a model Y. He's a big guy who works out. He said it took everything in him to get it over a tiny hill at the exit ramp.
This sounds like Microsoft’s update time estimations.
The car cannot take into consideration wind and pavement roughness so well as to indicate that perfectly, nor battery wear I think. I'm not saying Tesla good, I'm saying nephew stupid. People run out of fuel all the time for the same reason: trusting estimate without a bit of common sense added to it.
Fyi: I drive a PS2 and it's estimate system doesn't take into consideration current weather, but the Google Maps one in Android Auto does, so the latter gives me vastly closer estimates.
Edit: Jesus the amount of people who think you can precisely measure the amount of power left in a battery. Try to differentate what I was talking about from Tesla or any other manufacturer. Elon is a pissant, but trusting estimates to be accurate is not smart, especially in EVs.
Except Tesla literally lies to you with the range estimates. Internal documents show that the range estimates are false, and Tesla staff KNOWS its false.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-ev-lying-range-much-worse-elon-musk/
EDIT: The Cybertruck range estimates are proof of this lying culture. Cybertruck is NO WHERE close to the estimates.
Wind and pavement won't make 5 miles into zero miles in a few seconds.
You missed the part where it was Tesla's navigation software that charged his car and told him where to drive to not run out before the next charge.
If you can't reach the next nearest Supercharging station that the Tesla navigation says you can reach, everything Tesla says about range is a lie.
Surely they have had other Teslas drive over the same road before the nephew. That data just wasn’t used to update the estimate. Tesla bad.