Could be a compliment. Smart people know better than to boast about being intellectual to strangers, and his response indicated he was smart enough not to.
Nah they're calling him out for his entry level babbies first philosopher. Bodied that anon good and proper
I would love to give my niece (3 year old) a children's book with classical philosophers / philosophies explained in suitable level of complexity.
Something for my sister to read loud at bedtime :) Would need to be in Swedish though
That guy's skin colour really has no relevance to the story. It's like saying "tall woman next to me..."
Writing would be extremely boring without ever using adjectives.
I also find it amusing you find gender has relevance to the story.
Times are a changing, partner, get used to it.
Writing would be extremely boring without ever using adjectives.
Correct. Still an extraneous usage of one here. The noun by itself is perfectly descriptive enough for this particular story.
I also find it amusing you find gender has relevance to the story.
Strawman. I don't find it relevant. Wouldn't have minded if they'd said "person" or "woman" or "dude" or "gal". The single aforementioned descriptive noun suffices.
Usually I'd agree with you, but in a forum full of vile racism, a racial non sequitur is kinda fun.
It helps to paint a more complete picture of the situation. The color of the man’s skin says nothing more than the color of his skin. However, now I know that the man that came to him is black. Since people generally don’t mention the color of someone’s skin if they are the same color. I also can assume that OP is not black.
I was a very successful manager for a retail company at one point. I was so successful that I was flown to the company headquarters with a few other managers from all over the US for 2 weeks. I got a free hotel room, and per diem money. All I had to do was go to a couple of classes everyday.
The one class that has always stuck in my mind was a race relations class. The teacher was a very tall thin black man, and he started by calling on students and asking “what is one way that you and I are different?”.
This line of questioning went on for 7 or 8 students. He got answers like “You’re bald, and I have hair”, and “you wear glasses, and I don’t”. Finally someone said “you’re black and I’m white”. The teacher goes “AHHH HAAA! Finally! Now, why is that so hard to say? It shouldn’t be. After all I am black and you are white. We are different in this way, and as long as that difference isn’t being said as a negative then there isn’t a problem with it”.
Also, as someone who grew up in a city where the population majority is black, and currently lives in a city that is majority black. People have to make that distinction all the time, and it goes both ways.
TLDR it’s ok to describe someone using their skin color as long as it’s not being used to disparage someone. While I understand the context of where we are. I don’t find anything about OP’s post racist.
I also grew up in a city that was majority black, in Georgia. I never thought anything of it. My family and I ended up moving away when I was in middle school but I visited friends occasionally after that. Many years later, I told my new girlfriend that I thought I might want to retire there. I love the nature there, the endless rolling hills, all kinds of different dirt and clay, oaks and pines for days. And they have amazing food, and some of the best (and sometimes the worst) people I've ever met. She said she had never been there, lived in Florida her whole life, so we visited and she decided that she liked it too but needed to spend more time there to really know if that would be a good long term future for her.
She told her parents about all this and the first thing her dad said was "did you know it's full of black people?" I lived there for many years and never once thought that there were too many or too few people nearby of any certain skin color, but the first thing this guy thinks about when he hears "Georgia" is lots of black people, and on top of that, that it's a bad thing. Honestly, kinda speechless, there was nothing to say but "yeah, and...?" And we try to avoid spending time with him as much as possible now.
I think that presenter you had was doing a good job of pointing to what so many people feel so awkward about. Acknowledging differences in race is not inherently bad. People just don't know how to handle it because too often, we remain isolated from each other. More interaction with people who are different than you will lead to greater understanding and normalization.
I don't think mentioning it is inherently racist(y'know, without the added context that it's fucking 4chan), it's just that it's irrelevant, and therefore kind of weird. As they mentioned, if the person were notably tall, that also wouldn't have any relevance, so unless you're just specifically calling attention to it because it's strange to you, which would be racist if used when describing someone's race, it's very strange to just suddenly say that they are that adjective without it being necessary for the story.
That reminds me of this skit: https://youtu.be/GS10Rp8zLE0?si=Yq_zs-GmdJZZxD9v&t=10
You would want to steal this man's identity away from him? Pretty privileged of you.
I'm out of the loop, what's wrong with plato?
My interpretation was “Plato is read by people still on their way” and anon didn’t take their meaning. People aren’t always clear. I know I’m not.
Couldn't tell a man from a plucked chicken.
Youd think a man as smart as people think he is would be able to tell the difference, but no. Makes me think he isn't all he's cracked up to be.
My read is basically the quote "the only thing I know is that I know nothing"
He's a bit of a fascist who managed to not carry forward his teacher's most valuable and allegedly highly regarded lesson of knowing the limits to one's own knowledge.
It gets even worse with his student Aristotle, but Plato kind of sucks compared to the more likely original aspects of his teacher.
It's a bit dizzying even, going from Socrates saying something like "all that I know is that I know nothing" or attacking his own assertion immediately after getting the other person to agree with it in some dialogues, to these long winded monologues that go on nearly forever making wildly illogical claims that go unchallenged by the other parties who instead agree wholeheartedly "certainly that must be the case that we should limit what information children can be raised with and get rid of music we don't approve of" or "some people say the universe wasn't intelligently designed but we won't even consider that because it'd be impious" (when the person allegedly saying this was executed for the charge of impiety).
What does fascist mean any more? How the hell did this word lose all meaning so fast. Everything is a fash now. Everything. This word means nothing at this point.
From Merriam Webster:
political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Where in the sam-fuck did plato coalesce national and racial discourse into an authoritarian political regime that nationalized the means of production?
He had some important ideas, but he was a bit of a reactionary.
If I were that black man and I'd said that, it would've just been because it sounded funny in my head.
He rides the bus.
A man of the people imparting unwanted wisdom on the stupefied and
Maybe there is nothing to comeback to. Maybe they were just saying that Plato is what leads you to be an intellectual.
Wholesome man gives anom a compliment on the subway
