storing of filamenter bewteen prints
storing of filamenter bewteen prints
How long do you have filament sitting "in the open"? I mostly print with a single filament roll at a time, and just leave it on the printer. A 1kg roll lasts me several weeks. For long time storage I keep it in an air tight box with disiccant pouches.
But how long can I let it sit before I should start storing it with disiccant and/or drying the filament before use?
I just got a cheap food dehydrator and stop thinking about it. I just print as needed, mostly functional stuff, or just enclosure for my electronic projects. 1 kg lasted me months, I'm still on the same kg that I bought early this year. And I'm in SEA, we have like 90+% humidity here.
I used to just open store, but I live in a desert. I now store and print from cheap cereal container diy dry boxes with desiccant. Prints have gotten much better for me. I almost always print PETG
Depends on the relative humidity in your house and the type of filament you use. I have usually ~30% humidity in my flat.
- PLA reall doesn't care about humidity. I've got some 5yo rolls that still print like new, without storing them air-tight.
- PETG is fussier. After a few days they start to act up. I always have them in the filament dryer while printing.
- Specialist filaments (e.g. Nylon, Carbon, Wood) might be much more hydroscopic, depending on the material.
Inside it's around 50%, fluctuates a bit depending on season.
That's a bit high. PLA still won't care, but PETG will probably only print perfectly for a quite short time (maybe a day or two).
That said, depending on what exact blend it is, Silk PLA or other PLAs with additives might also have an issue with humidity.
So i live in Germany, and i just put a bag with silica over the active roll and call it a day. But it depends very much on the material you print with, i print PLA and that dosn't pull much moisture out of the air.
I've only worked with PLA so far, and I'm fairly new to the hobby.
Best way to store them is go buy a cheap cooler and get some of those silica beads that you shouldn't eat and toss them in the cooler with you filament should last a long time like this
I store my open but not currently used rolls of filament in a large plastic tote with a gasketed lid. I guess you could call this a "dry box," but it's not very heavy duty. I have a stocking full of silica gel desiccant beads in it, the kind that change color when they're allegedly saturated. I nuke that in the microwave about once every six months. They're never indicating their saturated color by then, but it pays to be sure.
Whatever roll is currently loaded in the printer I have in a heated filament dryer which can output right to the printer. Its lid is not sealed, per se, but it's not just open to the air, either. I run the dryer when I'm printing. That hasn't given me any issues.
In my environment -- a basement that's not terribly damp, and I leave a dehumidifier running maintaining an alleged 30% RH -- if I leave an exposed roll of PLA on the machine it will get brittle enough to potentially start snapping bits off within about 2-3 weeks of sitting exposed to open air.
All my active rolls are in dryboxes with a bunch of dessicant, I'm probably going to try setting up a solution that lets me use even more dessicant. I use a dryer for new spools, even sealed stuff can pick up moisture for things like petg and definitely stuff like nylon. I printed 4 of these https://blog.prusa3d.com/dryboxes-and-alternative-spool-holders-not-only-for-multimaterial-upgrade_30525/ with these to support to spools https://www.printables.com/model/445085-ptfe-tube-roller-for-drybox and some Bowden hookups +some dessicant inserts
I live in Canada, it gets super humid in the summer so I find I'm having to change dessicant often, don't open more than I need to.
Summer I really make sure they’re in vac bags with indicating desiccant. Winter not so worried. I used to just not care but since getting an X1C with ams I’ve had a number of rolls of pla snap inside and trying to clear that out is annoying. Haven’t really had an issue sense although I have some esun pla+ that is incredibly brittle and will snap just looking at it.
If the filament comes in a resealable bag, I simply store the spool in there with some desiccant. For everything else, I use resealable 2-gallon bags with desiccant. My basement humidity is very stable around 30%, and I don’t really have issues. I’ve never dried filament before printing. That’s going on 6 years.
In a high humidity environment (apparently different from most lemmy users, but like where most people live), PLA starts to visibly degrade in a month on 60% humidity, and much quicker when it's higher. Not enough to destroy your prints, but enough to harm their finish and possibly a bridge here and there.
I don't see any point on storing them better if you are still printing once in a while. But it may be useful to dry them before a more demanding print or every few months.
Yeah i have 60-80% humidity depending on season where I live...
Depends on where you live. I live in a desert where the humidity is often <10% and have left PETG and PLA rolls out for several weeks at a time with no issues. With nylons I've been a bit more careful, though I'm not sure I need to be.
What kind of climate do you live in?
Fairly humid Scandinavian climate, 60-80% humidity depending on season, inside its usually around 50% though.
In winter, you won't need to care much as heating will help to keep low humidity, the rest of the year, I would say you can keep pla roll out about a week before storing it but personally (living in 60-85% humidity climate), I just let it out so I'm ready to print. If I start a print after about a week, stringing will likely appear but if stays out for about a month, filament will become brittle.
Everybody is storing it in different conditions. Me for example, my printer is in front of a window that gets afternoon sun.
No cover, no curtains or anything. I just leave my PETG roll on the printer and print whenever I want to. Just recently after like 6 months of not printing I printed something to test without any problems at all......
How long depends on your humidity. If you live somewhere with high humidity, PLA or PETG filament can go bad in a couple of weeks or less. In a dry location, maybe never for PLA. Nylon will go bad anywhere in a matter of hours. It's not easy to tell if filament is wet - weighing filament can tell you about the moisture gain/loss, but of course doesn't work when you are actively consuming it. When filament gets wet, prints start to get bad in various vague ways that can seem like printer tuning issues. Sometimes it's bad bed adhesion, sometimes poor first layer quality, stringing, or bad overall print quality.
If you want a good storage solution you need an airtight box. I use Iris Weathertight storage boxes with 1lb desiccant canisters and a humidity monitor. The 62qt box can fit 16 spools and room for the desiccant.
I've literally never had my filament not just sitting on the spool on my printer, which is just kept on my desk in my living room. Never had any problems with it.
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