Once again, I am calling on manufacturers to improve their sealing glues

Somebody had to do it.

I appreciate you.
- whenever someone says "I appreciate you," it triggers my delusional love and hormonal responses because the man I was in love with always responded "I appreciate you" whenever I told him "I love you. " 😭
- And I appreciate you. You are awesome! Just in case no one told you today.
Funnily enough, his hairline resembles many of the product seals I've unsuccessfully tried to remove.
- He is indeed TheOneWithTheHair
They'll make the glue even stronger..

the secret is they should be using wax instead of glues, but that requires a warm squeeze and they are trying to save a thousandth of a penny and hope nobody notices. i email the CEOs about it.

That'll show em

The fucking texture of that cottony shit left behind, like nails on a chalkboard trying to rip it all off.

The glues work fine, it's the paper/cardboard that failed because the glue was stronger.

It's the worst when it happens to boxes because instead of collapsing a box proper you have to tear it to fucking pieces, THANKS OBAMA.

the worst is how my migraine medication comes in the most hard to open package

Try getting arthritis meds in a child proof container! Almost impossible to open even if your hands do work properly. Repeatedly ask to put in normal screw cap bottles but they never listen.
This one gives me a migraine when dealing with the packaging.
- Then why you dealing with the package without a migraine?
- Hence the name 'migraine medication', yeah!

How about the ones that get fused to the opening like someone was welding fucking steel girders together on the Golden Gate Bridge?

And they have no pull off tab, and your finger nails are just a tiny bit too long and you bend one the wrong way 🤕
- Or the pull off tab rips right off, leaving the seal itself perfectly intact.
- That is one of the worst feelings.
The irony of that being true for my ADHD medication bottle is not at all lost on me. It's like a tiny extra "fuck you".
- “Oh I’m sorry did you need some medication?”
  Industrial SMAW welder whirring in background
- Ugh, this is my migraine medication. I have to open the little blister packs in advance because they're so hard to open that I often just can't do it if I have a migraine...when I need the medication.

You may be interested to know that these kinds of paper adhesives are usually intentionally designed so that the substrate (paper) tears before the adhesive does. This is meant to ensure robust packing and to give proof that the package has not been tampered with. Couple this with ever thinner and shittier substrates, and, well...

Ugh. I believe them already. It's sealed for my protection. I get it. It says so nearly 100 times. I don't check the seals for syringe marks first either, or the factory's latest cleanroom maintenance logs. Just let me in, I already paid the extortionate entry fee.
Seriously though, I wouldn't mind so much if they always were just paper I could poke a finger through at the end. Sometimes there's another super stretchy thick plastic layer under that which resists everything but blades. I don't want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I'm getting to the point where I've thought about it.
- I know what you mean. I wish more stuff could just be packed in glass jars with the little popping seal. If it's popped, it has been opened. I don't know if everything can handle the pressure difference... But it seems ideal. Plus then the glass jars and aluminum lids can be recycled.
- I don't want to keep a knife in my bathroom, but I'm getting to the point where I've thought about
  Have you considered just not eating peanut butter in the bathroom?
  Or open it in the kitchen first.
- The knife can double as a poop knife.
- My condolences, buddy.
- Just chew through the container. Pussy.

It needs to be the opposite of improved. If they improved it, you'd never get it open.

Only if you define "improve" as "make stronger."
If you define "improve" as making it more user-friendly, then they definitely need to be improved.
I'm looking at you clorox wipes...

Do you want good adhesive properties or to not taste the adhesive in your food?

Does the adhesive taste as good as the ones in grade school?
I would be fine with mediocre or even shitty adhesive properties here. It's protected and pressure is maintained using a solid HDPE capped jar with perforations, which is already a tamper-evident seal. I don't need a padlock on it either. Or even a disability-proof cap (the manufacturers prefer the name "child-proof" though). And there are multiple adhesives which don't impart odor or flavor. Even superglue wouldn't do it, given you need less than a tiny smear. What an odd false dichotomy you have given me.
Behold, could this be the best of both worlds? (image description: glass bottle with half-peeled seal. The separation is clean and easy and lacks flavor.)

This and every single perforated paper/plastic that never fucking tears correctly.

They need to talk to the people who make flour bags. Those paper bags glued shut with the strongest glue known to man, so that they are impossible to open without tearing a big hole in the bag, rendering it impossible to store the flour in.

You shouldn't store flour in the paper bag it comes in anyways, flour should be stored in an airtight container.
- I do move it into glass jars, but those bags drive me crazy. Always spill flour opening them.
You need a container written flour on it. Ideally one with a cover that barely holds, dont ask me why it's like that.

But that costs money and how are we gonna make even more money if we reinvest any of the earnings? 😩

Line must go up!

They keep a record of complaints as part of their CAPA. Any food related issues should always be reported, helps quality dept.s push for more funding.

And then the quality department uses those complaint printouts to level their wobbly tables in the cafeteria.
- Quality hasn't printed out complaint reports since the 90s in most places. But, yeah about the same impact by the end of the day..or quarter.
- Because the reports go unheeded by management until it costs them money, at which point the quality department get their arses kicked for not fixing the problem that management ignored.
So what exactly is their phone number and address to direct complaints and feedback to?
- Look at back of product. Often it'll have someoney like, "If you have any questions or weren't fully satisfied call this number. ". Or it might be on their site now.
- Should be pretty easy to find on their packaging or website, as it looks like someone else here pointed out :) Also, we can't tell what the hell it is so not sure how you could think we could tell ya.. :)

Literally me today with a small soap container, but it was a trifecta: the lid separated from a plastic seal under it as with the picture, with the tiniest of rim you can barely get with your fingernails to pry it off to begin with, and a seal so strong you can't just puncture it with you fingers.

As with another suggestion I just used thermite.

I remember the days before most things had seals over the opening.

ah yes, the before the-tylenol-debacle times
- Back when we could still have nice things
- Tylenol debacle?
- That's exactly what I was thinking of when typing that out
Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it's better. You can be sure no one stuck their dick in it, smeared a booger, or put anything harmful or anything else on or in it. Stuff also keeps longer, as long as you don't break the seal most stuff stays good for a long time.
- I totally agree. I just remember...
- Other than slight annoyance when things are hard to open, it’s better.
  Sure, if you are not experiencing the symptoms of medical conditions. Especially the conditions that led you to be opening the bottle in the first place, that's when it's especially insulting on top of the additional pain/fatigue the situation generates.
  It's not even that I don't like seals. I love the caps and covers on the tins and bottles and jars of food in my kitchen. I even love recyclable ziplock bags, and there are flimsy takeaway containers out there that are literally watertight. I just don't like seals that are poorly made. There are products with usable seals out there, I know this first-hand. I've used them. I use them everyday.
  Even then, not everything we consume has to be Fort Knox just because someone tainted a product intentionally or accidentally in the past. There are product recalls for various problems everyday and yet I've avoided getting ill from my groceries my entire life. I'm fine with buying my bread in a paper bag, I don't need them to start using hermetically sealed boxes with padlocks.
  And honestly, there are so many points in the production lines of most things where someone has the opportunity to stick their dick in something, that I just can't dedicate the energy to entertaining that possibility on a daily basis. I also can no more verify that the last burger I ate was made by someone who washed their hands, any more than I can verify that the tomatoes I'm buying to make ketchup for homemade burgers weren't grown using human faeces and picked by slaves. And I say this as someone who has some immunity issues: There are just too many vectors for various kinds of contamination than you can imagine, let alone reasonably safeguard against - you have to pick and choose to battle the most likely to occur or kill you. I do not battle the possibility of penis in my products. I just don't have that kind of time.
  We have the technology. This situation literally doesn't need to exist for anyone ever. And yet it's clearly common as fuck.

Drill through the bottom!

You think you can drill through the bottom? 🙄 Clearly thermite is the best way in.

I haven't tried to open this way forever. Puncture the top and pull to the outside.

SEALEDforYOUR
P R O T E C T I O N

They mispelled
GOfuck
Y O U R S E L F

SEALEDforYOUR P R O T E C T I O N

I hated the design of that too, so very much.

am I looking at glue that didn't come off, or something that spoiled because the glue didn't hold?

The bond between the seal and the jar is stronger than the bond between the layers of the seal. So peeling it separates the layers and leaves behind the thin papery final seal layers instead of removing the whole seal.
Admittedly this is better than the seal on one of my medications. It removes in one pull... if you can find and pull the tiniest sliver of edge of the seal, because they leave zero overhang.
The glue around the rim of the cup is too sticky, so it left behind a layer of cottony paper when the label was ripped off
- ~~Also, this usually only happens when people are in a hurry and pull from the top instead of the bottom where it’s curled around.~~
  Never mind, my fat ass thought it was a weird angle on a can of Pringles or something food related.

What we need to talk about are the built-in ziplock style closers on plastic bags that are everywhere now. Even makers of premium foods can't seem to get this right. I can only think of one product where the closer is an improvement on having nothing.

Boar's Head Deli meat. I guess the guys who sell spam for the price of a good steak can spare the expense.

I've got a couple of things that I buy which have the best ziploc seals I've ever seen, and I wish I could reuse the bags for other things, except they're opaque and printed. But I have definitely met my fair share of terrible ziplocs too. Nothing like spending 10mins struggling with a shitty ziploc seal when you were just trying to put some food in the freezer.

what am I looking at?

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This! I just bought a water bottle, and it took the following measures just to get the residue from the label off:

Soaking in warm, soapy water
Scrubbing with an abrasive sponge
Soaking in vinegar
Scrubbing with Flash floor cleaner
Immersion in boiling water for 30 mins
Scrubbing with a Brillo pad
WD-40
91% concentration laboratory-grade isopropanol

You need d-limonene (orange peel extract) for adhesive removals. It works wonders by comparison to the things you tried, but even then I can still spend a good 10 mins on the same problem!
- Isn't that just goo gone or am I mistaken?
- Olive oil helps too
- I would have tried that if I had any. Somehow, I have laboratory grade chemicals in my room, but not a drop of orange oil in the entire house!

I have a cutter exclusively for the kitchen. But i rarely get to use my can opener.

I'm not sure how peanut butter is sealed but usually foil lids are sealed with an induction sealer. Cap it's tightened down (if not potential for a bad deal) and the foil in the cap is pushed tight to the bottle/jar. The metal heats up, melts the plastic and seals.

This one looks like a pressure seal, which as the name suggests seals by tightening the cap. In my experience from a packing QC standpoint the potential problems with a pressure seal are either the seal not sealing fully because the cap isn't tightened enough, or the seal getting damaged by the cap being over tightened. This looks like a cheaply made seal wad to me. I dare say the QC department complained about it but management wanted to save a few cents.
- This looks like a cheaply made seal wad to me
  The seal looked to be perfectly vacuumed when I opened it, and the lid wasn't a tight one, so I suspect you're right. But someone else in the thread indicated that this may also be a "feature"? I'm not sure if it's a post hoc rationalisation of shit supply purchase choice or a deliberate design decision or a manufacturing error, but it doesn't matter. I hate it all the same.
  Also, thanks for providing me with a proper specific name for these things, and the gift of your experience in all things sealed.

The should find out what is used for the foil seal on top of International Delight. That shit is insane.

Just stop buying it.

Ok yeah sure I'll stop buying everything that has a minor inconvenience to it.
This is a widespread problem, manufacturers need to improve their seals so they don't delaminate, i.e. the glue should be weaker than the laminate.
If this were a problem limited to one product or brand, I would. Unfortunately this one was a first time purchase too.