2y ago

British Police are Using Period Tracker Data and Blood Tests To Investigate Patients Who Miscarry

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2y ago

British Police are Using Period Tracker Data and Blood Tests To Investigate Patients Who Miscarry

www.themarysue.com /british-police-are-using-period-tracker-data-and-blood-tests-to-investigate-patients-who-miscarry/

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2y ago

British Police are Using Period Tracker Data and Blood Tests To Investigate Patients Who Miscarry

www.themarysue.com /british-police-are-using-period-tracker-data-and-blood-tests-to-investigate-patients-who-miscarry/

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It's dystopian shit like this that is beginning to make me despair of what my country will be in 10 years time.
The passing of the online safety bill, this sort of shit, the recent legislation making it more and more difficult to protest anything, the massive expansion of facial recognition cameras everywhere. We're on the edge of a bad period I think.
- The UK has always been an oppressor lol
  
  True, but it's definitely getting both worse and more blatant.
- Possibly could have reworded that last sentence. Unless it was a deliberate pun?
  Can't think what they'd want from this though. And why the police? They've got better things to do, this is a health matter.
  
  The police think they're solving murders.
- Nah bro if shit hits the fan, we can use the tech against politicians & super-rich . They can’t hide, look at both sides of the coin. Just keep doing good, don’t fret on the darkest possible outcome.
  
  can you point to any signs justifying your optimistic thoughts?
- obligatory: "literally 1984"
This is a shit article from a shit source. It references itself, which, in turn, references guardian. There's no mention of police pulling data from period tracking services. The only related thing I could find in OP was a quote from whatever tortoisemedia is:
We already know that police routinely remove phones and computers from women suspected of having an [illegal] abortion and it’s even happening following miscarriage and pregnancy loss.
And it sucks, but this is not a dystopian surveillance bullshit OP is trying to sell. Put a password on your shit and you're good to go.
- Yes, and I despair only at this steaming pile of trigger bait having got so many upvotes. I expected some degree of critical thinking on Lemmy, not the same sort of knee-jerk conspiracy bullshit that abounds on Reddit and Twitter. Silly me.
- You're totally downplaying the tortoisemedia quote by not mentioning it's from the co-chair of the British Society of Abortion Care Providers, a totally legitimate and mainstream body.
  If you think this is a shit article, tell me what you think it gets wrong. Or are you basing your opinion on the fact you weren't previously aware of tortoisemedia?
  
  You're being disingenuous.
  What it gets wrong is ethics. If you're writing about one thing, but giving it a title of another - you're a shit publication.
“Given that one in four pregnancies end in miscarriage, and the vast majority of them are unexplained, this rise in investigations of and the treatment of unexplained miscarriage as suspicious is deeply concerning…”
- And it's often familial too.
  My family on my mothers side and my eldest sister all struggled to carry pregnancies to term in their 20's, getting pregnant relatively easily, to then miscarry.
  Heck, my mothers mom died in childbirth giving birth to her, she first had a long string of miscarriages and then was on the old side to have babies when my mom came along.
  It's all a very "hey, lets stigmatize and traumatize these people that are going through a horrible medical and psychological event in their lives some more!".
- A lot of the time miscarriages also aren’t even known about, it just looks like an irregular cycle. So there’s a fairly good chance the pregnancy would be news to the person accused of getting an illegal abortion.
- Three in four, according to Guttmacher. Half are due to failure to implant, and go by undetected.
  But part of the problem is women who miscarry often suffer from mental illness, including an unreasonable belief that somehow they are at fault. (Selection is part of the gestation process. Many, many conceptions are incompatible with life even in perfect conditions.) So law enforcement may be capitalizing on a demographic that already feels guilty.
When authoritarians don't fear consequences, there's is no limit to what they are willing to commit.
Is abortion not legal in the UK?
- Up to 24 weeks. Someone was recently jailed for self inducing an abortion near term. If we want to get technical, abortion is decriminalised in that it's an offence to do it unless it's done medically and two doctors need to sign off that it's necessary for the physical or mental health of the patient.
  
  So nearly the same as in germany. Ok
- Literally at the top of the article:
  Though abortion is legal in the UK, there are TRAP laws in place requiring certain conditions to be met first, paramount of which is that two separate doctors need to agree that the patient meets the criteria of the 1967 Abortion Act before any treatment can go ahead. Self-managed abortion is a criminal offense with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment in the UK, as is any abortion performed after the pregnancy has progressed passed 23 weeks and six days, unless the patient is at risk of serious physical harm or death, or the fetus has severe developmental anomalies.
  
  Thanks
- It's legal and as are morning after pills.
- yes but 'the more you know' 🌈
Downvote this post for spreading fear-mongering, poorly-researched "journalism."
Keeping track of livestock

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