Trump Vows to Ban Immigrants Who ‘Don’t Like Our Religion’
Former President Donald Trump vowed on Monday to ban immigrants who "don't like our religion" from the United States if he becomes president again.
Let this be a reminder to anyone who hasn't liked Biden's handling of the Gaza situation that this is the alternative.
Bro, just because Trump is worse than Biden doesn't make Biden immune to criticism
Why are either of them choices?
Because we have a first-past-the-post voting system that all but guarantees only two parties are ever real contenders. We must to move toward ranked-choice voting if we ever want to have more options.
for many matters trump and biden are identical
trump moved the embassy to jerusalem, legitimizing israel's violation of international law
biden goes over and gives netanyahu a big hug on TV in order to make it clear to the whole world he openly endorses genocide
trump started the border wall
biden expanded construction on it
trump unilaterally broke the iranian nuclear deal
biden makes no real effort to reinstate it
trump puts tariffs on chinese steel and other imports from china
biden continues the same tariffs
trump used "temporary" covid measures in order to refuse people at the border seeking asylum and separate families
biden uses the same exact policies, again in violation of both international and internal laws
the difference between them is narrow and focused on specific topics. for example biden is nice to the rainbow flag.
to make it clear to the whole world he openly endorses genocide
If that's your takeaway, you'll have to forgive me for thinking that you're not exactly engaging in any meaningful amount of good faith and moving on.
It is amusing, however, that you say the only difference between them is in narrow specific topics after you've just cherrypicked a few select specific topics. As a member of that rainbow flag myself though, that's a difference I rather appreciate.
for many matters trump and biden are identical
trump moved the embassy to jerusalem, legitimizing israel’s violation of international law
Not that I really want to be defending Trump here, but remember that the US does not recognize international law.
biden goes over and gives netanyahu a big hug on TV in order to make it clear to the whole world he openly endorses genocide
Because of the way Israel handled the situation, there was really no way Biden was going to be able to take one side or the other without pissing somebody off. Both were in the wrong. Hamas clearly should not have attacked unprovoked and taken hundreds of hostages, but Israel should not have gone full "Kill 'em all and let God sort them out" mode either. The hospital bombing didn't do anyone any favors either, as you could have video evidence proving who was responsible and people still wouldn't believe it.
trump started the border wall
Actually, no. George HW Bush stared the wall and every single president since him has expanded it ever since. Trump was just the first to make it a focal point of his campaign and policy.
biden expanded construction on it
So did every president before him.
trump unilaterally broke the iranian nuclear deal
biden makes no real effort to reinstate it
Iran was pissed that Trump unilaterally broke it in the first place, and feel that attempting to re-negotiate would be pointless if the next administration can just unilaterally drop it on a whim. Plus, with Iran seemingly readying to go up against Israel, any attempt to reinstate it is probably dead on arrival at this point.
trump puts tariffs on chinese steel and other imports from china
biden continues the same tariffs
Why should Biden lift tariffs from a country that is becoming increasingly hostile to us and have far more draconian measures in place in their own country?
trump used “temporary” covid measures in order to refuse people at the border seeking asylum and separate families
biden uses the same exact policies, again in violation of both international and internal laws
Again, international law does not apply in the US, and many countries had strict immigration policies in place regarding COVID.
the difference between them is narrow and focused on specific topics. for example biden is nice to the rainbow flag.
Well if that isn't awfully condescending.......
Biden isn't really expanding border wall construction. There hasn't been a policy shift to build a giant wall to solve immigration issues. Just a single case of wall being built. Every one of your points are skin deep and ignores a lot of nuance. Not to mention the condescending comment on being nice to the rainbow flag.
You guys have "a Religion"?
American Christianity. It's like Christianity but cutting out all the stuff that Christ guy talked about.
Supply Side Jesus
So like anti-Christians? And him their antichrist?
jesus christ that bible guy was clueless. Its best to just go with baby jesus and leave out that hippie one.
Yes. Money.
It’s more like a cult
American religion is the worship of money. Sometimes it takes the guise of Christianity but eschews any of the real lessons.
I know people have said "money," but if there's anything akin to "a Religion," it's American Fundamentalism, the weird amalgamation of white supremacy, conspiracy theories, Christian fundamentalism, apocalypticism, colonialism, constitutional originalism, and American nationalism.
It's festered beneath the surface for decades, and Trump was the first to seize upon the true believers and become their defacto demigod. He even has actual pastors revering him not just for his rhetoric but as an actual messiah figure.
How fucking Christian of him.
I almost wish religion was real, just so Jesus could come back and start smiting Trump and the rest of these fake Christians.
While I agree with the sentiment, we should take a step back.
"Our" religion!? And what would that be? Pretty sure the founding fathers made it damn clear that there was no official religion and we were to separate church and state.
I'm so sick of these Christian fascists that see the handmaid's tale as something to aspire to and the grifting assholes that will drive that into existence for their own personal gain...
I say if we deport anyone it's the people who start forcing their religion on the rest of us.
“Our” religion!? And what would that be?
In theory, yes. There should be a separation of church and state.
In practice though, there are a lot of Republicans who would welcome a fascist theocracy and they're working toward that end. They get away with it because there are so few moderate Christians who are willing to go to war with these assholes.
I was readying the first amendment and that first line really looks like freedom from religion to me.
The religion he's talking about isn't Christianity. Trump wouldn't recognize Jesus Christ if he smacked him in the face. He's talking about Trumpism.
Trump wouldn’t recognize Jesus Christ if he smacked him in the face.
Just for the record... if Jesus came back, he'd do a lot more than smack Trump in the face - I don't want to get into details, but I'd imagine the involvement of a holy flamethrower is a distinct possibility.
As someone who grew up in a religious household but is now agnostic….I sometimes have second thoughts with the fact that trump is basically frame for frame the “antichrist.”…and we were taught that the Antichrist would be “injured” for a short time but they will eventually win and that’s when the NWO, join or die and the mark of the beast shit will happen. Sometimes that gives me pause for the future.
What are your thoughts?
"Our" religion.
Dude doesn't even know how to orient a Bible for a photo op, and couldn't name his favorite part - or any part - of the Bible in an interview.
The closest he gets to studying Christianity is sitting next to a book of Hitler's speeches for inspiration via osmosis from a Catholic.
That he can be so successful with the religious right says quite a lot about their critical reasoning abilities.
I guess maybe raising children not to question anything and to commit themselves to obeying authority might not have been the best idea in retrospect...
There is a worse example than that! At a panel in 2015, he was asked if he has ever prayed for forgiveness, and he said no. It's the core part of protestant conversion, and he denied doing it and seemed confused by the concept.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4624981/asked-god-forgiveness
I mean, why would he? You have to feel as though you’ve done something wrong in order to ask for forgiveness. I genuinely don’t think Trump has ever done anything that he recognizes as wrong. I think you could get him to recognize that he’s done things that have hurt people, intellectually, but at best he’d say it was someone else’s fault and/or they deserved it.
Well yeah, but he as often as possible gets his little wine and his little cracker...
I get the feeling if you asked him what those represented and why, he'd flub the answer and have to redirect to talking about "The Power of Positive Thinking" again.
That he can be so successful with the religious right says quite a lot about their critical reasoning abilities.
It's a cult. They aren't consistent with the values of Christianity, because it's just an aesthetic. The cult itself is always first. In-group vs out-group. Ally vs enemy.
Tankies are the same. Communism is just an aesthetic, the cult is always first.
Hasn't anyone noticed that he is the actual embodiment of the 7 deadly sins?
I've pointed that out many times.
Anger, Envy, Vanity, Lust, Avarice, Gluttony, Sloth- he embodies them all.
Before breakfast
This pastor had some observations.....
American Christianity has long deviated from the teachings of Jesus.
Greed isn't a religion you dumbass.
I mean .....are you sure? It sure seems like it.
Fuck me...you might have a point.
He was talking about MAGA.
Trump is literally an atheist who has been caught mocking the faith of his own followers in private
Not sure if this says more about him, or the average practioner of these religions who keep voting for him.
My mother is convinced he’s chosen by god even though he’s a terrible person. She’s just hand waving all of his obviously ‘sinful’ behavior as irrelevant to god doing god things. She keeps saying ‘he’s a man for such a time as this’ and it’s fucking wild how hard she’s gone in on this fascism since I broke contact with her and stopped fact checking her.
It says he's a man of no principles who will take any audience or following he can get, as long as it gets his foot in the door. Even if the following is antithetical to the few things Trump keeps near and dear to the cancerous black mulch he has where the rest of us keep our hearts.
For evangelicals, it says they're batshit crazy, but that's not new information.
So I'd say it says more about him
Trump is not an atheist. He's a pretender who will say whatever the fuck he thinks makes him look good
Actually one of his staff who was of the MANY arrested testified that behind closed doors after getting back from a rally... Trump commented on his religious followers by saying something to the effect of "Can you believe people really go for that kind of stuff"
In reference to the existence of God.
If he doesn't believe in God he is by definition an atheist
Does declaring yourself an atheist make yourself look good in American politics in your experience?
Can’t wait to see North Americans come back to Europe to runaway from religious persecution.
Welcome to the Old World my friends !
What you imply is a common misconception. Puritans did not flee to America in the early modern period because they were religiously persecuted. They fled to America because they were not allowed to religiously persecute others anymore. They were scolded because of their religious intolerance not because of their religion per se.
Can I ban republicans because they don't like my religion?
I say "Christo!
You say "Fascist!"
Christo!
Polo!
so close!
Outstanding! LOL
"Our?" His religion is money, so uh, ban immigrants who don't like money?
Edit: I'm 30 minutes late, flyingsquid got to religion=money first
I'm guessing that Trump doesn't even understand not liking money.
He worships himself.
And now you will have to like that religion, according to him.
He's very likely the first truly Atheist President this country has had, which makes me mad that it was a piece of shit like him and not a better representative, someone who was an Atheist for intellectual reasons and not because they're just a massive narcissist.
I feel like “atheist” implies that he’s given religion one iota of critical thought, beyond how it can benefit him personally.
Maybe I’m splitting hairs, but I’d classify him as irreligious as a result of indifference and his narcissistic inability to comprehend that there can be anything greater than him.
"Our religion" Is Trump a Communist??
If you asked him which religion is that I bet you he wouldn't be able to answer and would go with "american one" or "greatest".
"Is that your bible?" "It's a bible."
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Emma Lazarus speaking on the Statue of Liberty
I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.
Jesus speaking in Matthew 25:35
Truly I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of my brethren you did it to me.
Jesus speaking in Matthew 25:40
vowing to “immediately restore and expand the Trump travel ban” and “halt all of the refugee settlements to the United States” on “day one” of his presidency.
Trump speaking in New Hampshire
Let's go with Trump.
American evangelicals speaking in 2023
It's one of the most damning indictments that their religion doesn't change who they really are.
These comments just seem like he's drowning and he's desperated to drum up any kind of reaction to take away from the fact that he's probably gonna lose most of his trials
Something has definitely started happening with him in the past few weeks. He's been stumbling in speeches, confusing WWII, forgetting who he beat in 2016. The dude is not well. And he's the one that says Biden has dementia. My how the tables have turned.
Isn't this also the same guy who caused "sharpie gate"?
I'm referring to when Alabama was added as a weird sharpie blurb on the hurricaine forecast back in 2019.
No one owned up to physically using the sharpie to doctor the report, but trump was very stubborn that the sharpie was correct.
I still can't imagine trying to "win" against the national weather service when your only "evidence" is a random sharpie blurb lmao.
before he was a special attraction now he's opened up pandora's box and let all the bonkers people out
That would be anyone who isn't indigenous and shamanistic
Capitalism? Exactly what religion is this dipshit talking about?
What religion are you talking about? lol
He can vow all he likes, but 1. he's a lying sack of shit and 2. he's never getting anywhere near the White House again, so who cares what he says?
he's never getting anywhere near the White House again, so who cares what he says?
Man, I wish I shared your optimism. The next election is going to come down to a few thousand votes in a handful of states, thanks to our backward electoral system.
backward electoral system
Gerrymandering, disinformation, election fraud, voter intimidation by big guys with their big tough guns at the polling stations. Oh, and the arbitrary under-staffing/removal of said polling stations. Lack of ranked-choice, etc.
Sorry, going off the cuff, but I guess your choice of words covers all that. Man I'm proud embarrassed to be an American
Arguably being the front running for the Republican party is pretty damn close to the white house.
Will the Supreme Court not be stuck between a rock and a hard place once those charges fall? The latest was a felony plea, meaning the charges aren't getting lesser. A felony for trying to steal the election would have to have the Supreme Court saying he cannot hold office again or they are illegitimate as they no longer are abiding by the constitution.
The Supreme Court will save their own necks and leave the republican party with Desantis stuck as their front runner. Either they start applying a lot of makup to his previous actions or I assume this election has to go to the Democrats on a land slide. "Moderate Republicans" may dislike democrats but they would have to vote for someone agaisnt minoroties, advocating for violence against our neighboring countries and trying to fuck over large businesses. That last one they can't live with.
He knows he's not shitting in the White House ever again.
Gee! I wonder who a promise like that would appeal to? It seems we have reached his appeal to the idiots phase of his campaign.
Maybe this will be the new “Mexico will pay for the wall.”
It seems we have reached his appeal to the idiots phase of his campaign.
Always has been 🌎🤔🔫👨🚀
"The Constitution?" trump replied. "Never seen her before. Not my type. Bigly ugly."
Fun fact, because he campaigned on a "Muslim travel ban", courts slapped down the ban when his administration tried to argue it wasn't religious based. It eventually went to the supreme court and I think was partially enacted by dropping some countries.
Soooo if you ever wanted proof that he doesn't learn from his mistakes...
Oh look at that he said the quiet part out loud again.
Wait, the griftee who doesn't even know how to hold a Bible, let alone reading it, is saying that.
Adolph Bonespur
Robert E. Peetapes
Stop giving the guy a platform for whatever bullshit he's going to say and forget. He wants this message to spread.
Focus on what he can't control that tarnishes his reputation instead like his legal woes.
Very ignorant of Trump.
That's redundant
That's going to be tough to do while incarcerated for multiple state felonies.
O-oh looks like you guys are going to get him elected again .