Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion
Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion
www.xfinity.com
Using WiFi Motion in the Xfinity app
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Well yeah. That’s what their tech does. And it’s why I have my ISP’s WiFi offering disabled and the antennas removed and run their router in bridged mode, hooked up to equipment I own that doesn’t call out to the Internet.
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Faraday cage or bust.
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Is your ISP know for robbing customers when they’re not home?
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Didn't read the article, but it's possible to get a 3d map with wifi. They can probably see you.
There is no privacy or security.
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They don't need a 3D map, and the researchers who have rendered a 3D map need a lot of specialized software and resources.
Xfinity doesn't need that. They only need to know when people are online, what they're looking at, and who/how many people are watching TV, and if there's indication of pets in the house. That gives them an advertising gold mine of data.
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By default, WiFi Motion is set to detect even small amounts of movement in the motion-sensing areas, including motion caused by small pets.
holy shit lol
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Oh boy, I can't wait for this new wave of paranoid customers claiming their wifi is watching them. Thanks, comcast.
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Well, it very well can be used for exactly that.
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I remember when MIT had a paper on this around 2000
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The show continuum used it too.
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fucking Batman
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I don't really understand how this works, so struggle to see any benefits (only drawbacks😐). It does make me thankful my provider is a small local company. Not the fastest, but probably no spying.
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If you are interested I can try and find the article on it but a few years ago an article came out where they were able to use wifi signals with enough accuracy that they could see a password that you were typing on your keyboard!!
But basically they use the way the wifi signal bounce off things to make an image in much the same way that echo location works
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Like - I’m excited about sensors that uses higher frequency versions of this for health monitoring. I think that’s a perfectly valid use. But also, in my use, I’d be installing it as an IoT device on a network I control, feeding data to services I own.
This use - where it’s opt in for now, until they figure out how to monetize selling how much time you spend in front of the TV, in the kitchen, bedroom, or bathroom (paired with ‘anonymized’ data about what you’re looking at online in each space) is creepy as fuck.
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That is nuts. I've always liked hardwired better but hard to do that with a mobile phone.
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It’s been around for almost 4 years. Don’t use rental modems.
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Different context but the first time I heard about this it was touted as the future for VR
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DOCIS 3.1 involves more than just speed. No point going over the speed limit if all the traffic lights are timed based on a certain speed. https://www.cablelabs.com/blog/how-docsis-3-1-reduces-latency-with-active-queue-management
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Mad at the concept, but at least it's off by default. Had Xfinity for 2 years and was running my own modem and router anyway, so I'm all set if I decide to switch back at this point
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Get your own gateway. Don't rent theirs.
You can buy cable modems cheap, too. No reason to use their crap at all.
"cheap" is a relative term.
Nobody should be buying a DOCSIS 3.0 modem these days. They are obsolete and for some reason still being sold.
A decent DOCSIS 3.1 modem is at least $200. A Next Gen like S34 is at least $220. At least at the big blue big box store. And then you have to get your own wifi.
(However, that big blue store also will give you a 15% discount on any networking purchase if you recycle an old network device...I traded in an old modem but you should be able to find a switch or router at a thrift store and still come out ahead)
It pays for itself pretty quick (by not paying rental fees), but that doesn't necessarily make it cheap.
I absolutely prefer using my own equipment, and do...but it's also worth mentioning that in many markets, Xfinity removed data caps if you have a rented modem.
I wouldn't trust them to not randomly enable WiFi, but you can also use their modem but disable any built in WiFi on it & still use your own router. ISPs continue to try to bundle their modem & router, which gives them complete access to your home network. Some lucky people have found fiber providers that let them use their own SFP.
Can you use your own modem? I thought you had to use theirs?
Yes, look on their website for compatible models, there’s a handful of affordable ones, many which perform better on higher tier connections too. Been using my own modems with Comcast for 25 years.
In Europe that used to be the case, but that changed not that long ago. Now providers are legally obligated to allow you to get your own modem
No you can use your own modem with xfinity.
You can use your own. But at every single point they're going to tell you that your brand new top of the line modem, is out of date and is probably the problem of any issue that you're having. They try so hard to gaslight customers in believing that you need to use their white labeled equipment. They want you to use their stuff and pay the fees so they can resell the Wi-Fi, and they have full control over your device.
Use your own modem and open source long range router
You need to use their modem quite often, but you don’t need to use their router. They’re usually “all in one” modem/router things these days, but they’re legally required to provide you with a modem in bridge mode if you ask — at that point, an Ethernet cable attached to their modem is effectively attached to the Internet, and you can put your own hardware inside (firewall, Wifi router, etc.).
While you need to connect to their IP gateway, you don’t need to use their DNS services or anything but their IP gateway service.
I have successfully avoided cable up to this point, but I did use my own modem back when I used DSL. It wasn't advertised anywhere, but I just took the details from their modem and called support for the last bit I needed and used my own. It worked well, and I had my router be separate so I was able to just toss the modem when I got better service.