RFK Jr. Wants Every American to Be Sporting a Wearable Within Four Years

So the vaccine is the government implanting a tracker into me, but watches that track my vitals and send them God knows where is hunky dory?

These anti government types always have such a hard time when they become the government.

Every accusation is a confession and all that
Having watched his actual statement, is not that they want your data. That's a red herring in the article.
But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition-- interacts with their body, that them, the individual, being able to know of how, for example, that 2nd Coke, and bag of chips is screwing up your insulin levels, and how it get affected in real time could be a positive drive for change in lifestyle. The fact is that the USA has an obesity pandemic and most people's knowledge of nutritional science can be laughable at best. 60+% of Americans are overweight. And 33% are literally obese, including kids.
You do not have to buy a wearable. They are not making or forcing to you wear a wearable and they are not going to ask you to show papers before you want to enter a restaurant proving that you use or own a wearable. He said that he would prefer it because how do you empower people who know next to nothing? Is it the only way? Nope. Of course not, but the system has been so captured by interest groups that many changes may not be politically feasible. They could be done in theory but not in practice right now. Europe had s superior take on nutrition than the USA, for example.
Personally, I would never wear a wearable but I also spent a lot of time studying Nutritional Science and attempt to leave a healthy lifestyle. It is an extra load of work that cuts into other things and not many may want to do but it is one that it is worth doing for yourself and the family.
Additionally, I have friends who are Doctors and the concept of wearables is not always well received. Privacy concerns aside, the worry is that it can turn a lot of people into hypochondriacs if they do not fully understand some basics of human anatomy and take raw data out of context. Not to mention a waste of resources if people want to run tests for absolutely everything they think might be wrong with it. It can also be a source for unnecessary stress in some people.
- Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it
  You haven't researched as well as you think you have. Even freshly squeezed juice is unhealthy. You need the pulp too in order to slow the sugar metabolism, in which case you may as well just eat fruit.
  Check Robert Lustig re sugars.
- Bro wrote a novel just to say they're dumb as rocks. Lmao.
- But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition
  A substantial part is that our food is filled with shit.
  They add sugar to everything. Food marketing is insane, and so much of it should be illegal.
  Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it. Getting a loaf of bread will involve eating extra sugar. The country subsidizes corn, so high fructose corn syrup is added to everything.
  Unregulated hell capitalism means that food gets to be pumped full of shit. Broke and stressed people rely on convenience foods - which don’t need to be unhealthy but are purposefully made so with addictive ingredients.
- A wearable will be totally useless if the owner has no clue what he should do or don't. Leaving people with a guilty mood will not help anyone. You cannot improvise yourself a nutritionist and most people cannot. The facts are you must first know how to cook because you will not find a healthy diet in the frozen meal aisle. Also, you cannot improvise yourself a kinesiologist. You cannot establish a sound workout routine without help or some knowledge in this matter.
  That guy, Robert Fucking Kennedy doesn't know shit about how to turn unhealthy people into healthy people. He's just a fucking dork with no real life experience.

Screw that. Give the government a way to track my vitals 24/7 and sell that information off to their cronies in the private sector? No thanks.

Vitals? You mean location. They don't give a rat's ass about your vitals.
- False. All data has value. Vitals can 100% be used to sell targeted ads for pharmacuticals, supplements, lifestyle brands, gyms, and more. Also if it has a microphone it's listening to everything.
- They'll have a lot of fun correlating your media consumption and your vitals to know exactly what you like and dislike, especially about politics. Then they know who to target for layoffs, arrest and/or deportation.
- I assume they can already get your location from your phone.

My watch runs for years from a coin cell. There's no way that I'm replacing it with an internet connected spy device that constantly needs to be charged.

Mine runs on me. It especially likes me wanking.
- Good ol' wank-o-clock.
- The thought of a low battery alert saying “fancy a wank. M8?” got a laugh out of me
I've got 20 watches and only ever change the Swatch batteries. They're laughably inefficient. One is an old smart watch, but it needs charged daily and I'm not up to all that.
Mines an automatic. No electricity required.
If it ever comes to this, I'm going to "forget" to charge mine. Every day since it comes out of the box. I might wear it so that I don't get stopped in public but this is going to be a brick.
- I'm sure soon enough we'll be "wearing" them inside our bodies so we don't have to be troubled to make sure they're working. Hasn't that been the Big Tech dream for decades now?
Tell that to the Apple Watch wearers.

They lobotomized the wrong Kennedy.

Man, I feel sick, lemme check my health watch.

status: unhealthy

Can I receive healthcare?

no

Health care is only for the healthy.
To see if you qualify for an upgrade to healthy status please input your net worth including all stocks, bonds, precious metals, fine art, jewelry & accessories, private aircraft, and yachts.
yes, but you have to pay a lot for it

You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.

Do you know why most people don't get those?

~~Insurance won't cover them.~~ Many insurance providers won't cover them.

Maybe start there? Although I'm guessing he has no buddies who would make money from routine blood tests.

The best part is the random bill.
Go to the doctor. Get blood drawn.
Doctor send the blood to a lab for the test. Doesn't tell me who. I don't care who. It's their subcontractor, let them worry about it. *Go back to the doctor or get a call for results. Pay the doctor the standard co-pay. *Months later a random company sends me a bill. This is a company that I have never interacted with or entered into any contract with, for work that somebody else (presumably my doctor, but who the fuck knows for sure) asked them to do for them, sending the results to that other person and NOT to me.
The system is broken. If any other company subcontracted a part of their work to a third party, you as the client would reasonably expect that work to be paid through the original contract, not get a bill directly from the subcontractor. I didn't hire them, the doctor hired them. As far as I'm concerned, that's the doctor's subcontractor and their debt, not mine. I paid the doctor already.
Or another variant.
Go to the emergency room.
Get separate bills FOR THE SAME SERVICE from the hospital, the doctor, and somehow the hospital again but this time it's the emergency room (which is somehow separate with a different billing company).
The system is not just broken. It is designed to fleece us and train us to always accept whatever debt the institutions decide to levy on us without question.
- That would be a violation of the hiipa act. Your samples get sent anonymous to the Lab with only a case number. They only know the adress of the doctor.
  If your doctor didn't anonymise your sample and the lab used it to send you a bill, they're in deep waters.
- As medical bills can't currently ding your credit score, I just throw them in the trash.
- Or how about the variant:
  submit prescription refill request
  check back
  check back
  check back
  escalate
  “we don’t have your insurance info”
  yes you do but here it is again
  resubmit prescription refill request
  check back
  check back
  check back
  escalate
  “we don’t accept that insurance. Find a new doctor”
  New doctor
  “why don’t you take your prescriptions regularly?”
- The doctor bill is separate because they're not hospital employees. The only have privileges to work at a given hospital, not for them.
  The separate ER bill is likely some fuckery I'm ignorant of.
You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.
Do you know why most people don’t get those?
Insurance won’t cover them.
My insurance covers this.
- I tweaked. Many (most?) don't.

I love how these extremist Christian Republicans always go on about the mark of the beast and how everyone will be forced to wear it but that the righteous man won't wear it....

All of them will do this, mark my words. These fuckers are worshipping Satan as far as they know and they're fine with it.

Everyone in America has to give out their social security numbers to every fucking company and government department because it’s the closest thing we have to a national ID.
Why can’t we have a real, secure, National ID system? Because it’s the mark of the beast!!
But now that RFK Jr wants to hunt people for sport I’m sure they will fall in line.

No need for vaccines with 5g chips when the wearable will have one right on your wrist.

As a non American, even I can see this is just a scam to further invade privacy and the data used to get increase health insurance costs

Don't wearables cause autism?

Only if using 5G.

I chose to stop wearing a watch more than 20 years ago. I thought about getting one for the health benefits five years ago, but concluded that I don't want to have a watch nor cover an awesome tattoo. As a friend once wrote, "wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time."

As a friend once wrote, “wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”
This is pretty out-of-touch. I mean, a lot of us kinda need to know the time at some point. It takes a special kind of privilege to be able to unshackle yourself from any semblance of a schedule, a privilege that not many of us have.
- I have a decent sense of time and an abundance of options to verify it
- It was a note he wrote down for himself while on strong psycadelics. I don't think that nullifies the observation.
“wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”
That's perfect! I'm stealing this. I HATE, despise, loath in every respect clocks, watches, calendars and any other form of scheduling oppression. Go pound sand - I'll show up when I show up.
- You would have a nervous breakdown in my house. Clocks in every room and 20 watches hanging in my room.
- Do you have children or elderly parents to care for?
Yeah, I don't even remember the last time I wore a watch. No reason now that everything has a clock built in.
It’s certainly nice to live a life free of responsibility for others, but that’s a massive and selfish privilege.
Do you take your phone everywhere? Does it have a clock you use on it?
So, guess the only difference is that one has an armband and the other you stare at for a lot longer?
If you do not have a phone either, then hats off to you.
- I leave my phone somewhere in my home and walk into a different room. Which undoubtedly has a clock. It also doesn't cover my cool 8-bit video game sprites tattoo.

He can fuck right off with all his worm-brained ideas.

eat shit and go to hell.

He does probably eat shit so he's at least half way there

He reminds me of the 'precious bodily fluids' general from Dr Strangelove.

edit: holy crap, I just rewatched the movie and RFK is EXACTLY that general. The general talks about toxins from fluoride in drinking water poisoning our precious bodily fluids. He even looks a bit like RFK. Its almost RFK is trying to act exactly like that general.

General Jack D. Ripper.

Revelation 13:16-17 New International Version 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Huh. No uproar from the people who believe in this shit? Weird.

Maybe they're all too busy basking in the warm glow of hell... Nah
- They are/were anti-vax, that makes chances pretty good.

Guess we’ll cut food stamps but tell people who can afford to to get a watch

Let them wear watches.

American evangelicals when the government suggests getting a vaccine for a deadly virus- "IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST DON'T GET IT OR YOU'LL GO TO HELL"

American evangelicals when people they voted for say you need to wear something on your wrist to participate in society - "This is fine"

A wearable computer is much more similar in form to what is described in the Book of Revelation than a vaccine is, but these dumbasses don't see that because they're not operating on logic but instead are just doing what they're told.

Fuck you RFK my Casio can't and won't connect to the internet, go swim in more sewage you dolt

casio calculator watch or bust

RFK jr’s wants, needs, desire to continue breathing move me not at all.

He can fuck off.

If we had a science-backing and non-Nazi government who I had any belief in their ability and will to keep our data safe, this might be really cool. When I first got an Apple Watch and saw all the ways it benefits me I honestly wished everyone had one by default.

Instead, something like this would simply be used to further control people especially women since it can track monthly cycles (to my knowledge at least.)

Anti-science brain worm dumbfuck says what?

And I want RFK, along with the rest of these anti-human ghouls to be dropped into an active volcano, but we don't always get what we want, do we?

Sure Bobby. I went and got myself an open-source "smart" watch that pairs with another FOSS app that doesn't send anything outside of the device.

What? Not like that? Oh, too bad.

I'm looking at getting a Pebble.
- Dude I used my Pebble way more organically than I ever used my much fancier Fitbit
- Same, I loved my Pebble Time Steel. I still do, and I still wear it sometimes (still got a week long battery life), but my daily driver is my PineTime.
- Still rocking a Pebble Steel from a decade ago, I tried a fitbit and Galaxy one but this Pebble has outlived them all. Thankfully I managed to find a silicon band for it when the leather one finally gave up on me.
He never said that he wants your data. Like, at all.You are just projecting. The Apple Watch BS claim is from the publication linked, not from him.
In fact, going by he actually said, you are doing exactly what he wants you to do. Use the data, if you want, to make better life and nutritional choices.
Keep doing it. You American seems to need it given your country's general health stats.
- Yes, I am projecting, I will fully admit that. Which is why, as a watch person, I went with a smart watch solution that doesn't mine my data.

Something something government tracking with microchips

From: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/21/rfk-maha-ultra-processed-foods

A key adviser to Kennedy, Calley Means, could directly benefit from one of the campaign’s stated aims: popularizing “technology like wearables as cool, modern tools for measuring diet impact and taking control of your own health”.

Calley Means is a senior Kennedy adviser, and was hired as a special government employee to focus on food policy, according to Bloomberg. He founded a company that helps Americans get such wearable devices reimbursed tax-free through health savings accounts.

Casey Means is Calley’s sister. She also runs a healthcare start-up, although hers sells wearable devices such as continuous glucose monitors. She is Kennedy’s nominee for US surgeon general, and a healthcare entrepreneur whose business sells continuous glucose monitors – one such wearable device. Calley Means’s company also works with Casey’s company.

Due to Calley Means’s status as a special employee, he has not been forced to divest from his private business interests – a situation that has already resulted in an ethics complaint. Consumer advocates, such as the non-profit group Public Citizen, had warned such hiring practices could cause conflicts of interest. HHS did not respond to a request for comment about Calley Means’s private business interests, or his role in crafting the publicity campaign.

What about sporting insertables instead?

I'm gonna need a detailed explanation of exactly what you mean, for the purposes of clear and effective communication.
- Insertables go into your butt.
They try pushing a warable onto me, and I'll insert it in them.

Mandating Americans use 'wearables' for health reasons thats coming from the same party that, when asked to wear a mask during a worldwide pandemic for the public health decried government overreach, claiming it was like living in nazi germany, and even discredited Fauci over his very true claims of wearing masks helping to save lives. I truly cant wait to see what that side has to say about Junior here, gotta keep that same energy right??

As long as the wearable contains open source software and preferably open source hardware, then sure, I'd be willing to do so. Because then I could know that I could control where the data went.

Pine64's Pinetime is pretty close. I use one. I like it.
Because then I could know ~~that I could control~~ where the data went.
It being open source doesn't mean you can mosify and run your own software on it and still have the agency accept you are compliant.
- I said nothing about the agency whatsoever. I don't give a shit what they see as compliant or not. If it's not open source, I won't fucking use it.

Sporting a wearable pump that injects worm eggs into your blood periodically

"Wearables" but they forget to mention it's about government mandated trackers in a closed ecosystem.
They will track which bad (health or otherwise) groups of people one has come in contact with and make deductions based on that.

Ofcourse it's also extra business for the ice teams. And the deluxe wearable also tracks payments.

The European Covid tracking app back then already was very scary in its early setup ... and this mandated wearable idea will be far worse.

Thing is putting the horrific privacy concerns aside it’s not like it’s a bad idea from a health perspective. Everybody being simply more aware of the things their body is doing is immensely helpful on a societal scale.

Problem is there aren’t any devices that are local only or otherwise truly private. Apple stores your data locally on your phone which is good, but there’s no guarantee it’ll always be that way.

Pass a law that protects wearable health data under HIPAA and I’d consider it.

Pass a law that protects wearable health data under HIPAA and I’d consider it.
And then the next bunch of fascists come in and seize all that data. Or the TLAs do it covertly.
We need strong data protection laws, but we also need strong technical measures to prevent intrusion.
- And robust incentives for the good guys to keep a step or two ahead of the jerks
HIPAA data is protected.....until it isn't. Laws change. Especially when companies are salavating to access health data.
- Laws don't even have to change if nobody is enforcing them.
Gadgetbridge?
This is my exact thought. My state recently passed a law requiring drivers' phones to be in hands free mode which means connecting phone to vehicle. Data sharing and security on vehicles is so under regulated. Seems like another way to forcibly track us and sell our info.
Laws don't work any longer. Only for poor folks.
I thought there were devices like this you could buy as a kit and build yourself that were local and private.
- Yeh bangle.JS is this I think
- Not that I can easily find. Especially one that can be bought off the shelf by the average consumer.
  The competition in the wearable space has narrowed in general. If you know of any it’d be really helpful to share, I know I’d be interested.

Follow the money. Nominee for surgeon general has a stake in wearable tech.

Just like when those scatter machines were forced on the TSA, it's because the person in charge had a stake in the company making them.

My company gave these things away to each employee for some 'fitness challenge' between departments....I never even opened the package. My group was mad at me for not helping win the free lunch or whatever it was .... Until I made them read the privacy policy. Many stopped wearing them immediately

Years ago I purchased a Fossil Explorist Q wearable smartwatch. The first software update, about a month after I bought it, turned the device from a functional smartwatch into a brick that was so slow it was nearly nonfunctional.

The device was not powerful enough to run all the spyware they tried to pack into that update, turning it into an on wrist heater, occasionally getting Hot enough to burn me.

I've never seen a device so thoroughly destroyed by enshittification so quickly. That's experience turned me off of wearables forever. Maybe I'll make my own someday. Maybe I'll get a Pebble now that they're back-ish. I'll never get anything with wearOS on it again. Hell after the last year I might never get something with Android/iOS again either.

Wait till you can have your pacemaker play the Netflix sound for 10% off the family plan

to do what with? unless you're going to also increase grants to nih studies for wearable devices to study and improve something involving the health system, what is the benefit besides making apple richer?

It makes the police state more efficient.

The only wearable I would ever consider wearing, is something like the thing Zack Friedman of Voidstar Labs made for himself.

Every time I see this Nazi Aristocrat, I am reminded that I have to sharpen my guillotine.

https://pine64.org/devices/pinetime/ 🤣 (rare case of a valid usecase for this emoji)

yeh... like that worm in your head huh

Those who are not infected with worms or eggs, must be identified -rfk jr

Yeah, no

Ok RFK. Let's see you and all of Trump's squad do it first, and make sure it's public in realtime. I'd love to see timestamps each and every time he reads AOC tweets.

I think some org could take the initiative and offer a standard protocol for "that" to communicate to this service.

Then you could wear something FOSS and clearly not spying, but send some information (if you so wish). Maybe no location, but vitals. Maybe no vitals, but location (suppose you want RFK to see a big "FUCK THE GOAULD" on the map).

Cause when you put enough money into a project, it might actually happen.

This is also the mistake everyone made about platforms and social networks.

I'll repeat again my idea that similarly to Usenet, there should be standard protocols and universal services for a global public system replacing those (Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, Google, whatever). You need a service to store data to be always available - have a standard for that service. You need a service to do some computation - have a standard for submitting a task and storing the result (until retrieved or maybe to the previous kind of service). You need a service to search for objects (common task, yes?) - have a standard for that. You need a service for notifications real-time - have a standard for that too, NOSTR does that now. You need some way to financially incentivize people to provide these services - have a "resource market" service, something like MMORPG item markets (where players script their trade with simple constraints, very easily), to buy&sell space&computation, with payments provided with something like GNU Taler, or BTC Lightning if nothing better. Need common identification - well, there's OpenID, but one can also have cryptographic identities and identity caching services. Need to actually aggregate hundreds of those services for every task - if search service is not enough (suppose we want to also make search and other services somehow partitioned, or something like that, to accommodate for amounts of data), then have an aggregation service (similar to torrent trackers) or maybe just use DNS for that. Structured machine-processable results of those services allow you to never depend on one platform and have everything they offer. With the specific "kind" being provided by the client application.

Humanity in our time has all the technologies it needs and none of the will.

No fucking way.

You can’t pay me to wear anything on my wrist even without the government spying. And no way in hell would I trust anything this administration recommends.

Why would every American buy one if they can't afford insurance + medical bills to pay for health care? "Oh look, I'm having a heart attack. Good to know. Guess I'll just keep working."

Don’t fucking tell me what to do.